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@NotNowthanks for putting everything together like that. There’s definite signs that something is going on but I just prefer to try and keep an open mind and realise that a lot of things(not everything) can be spun either way depending on what you want to be the case.

The main thing I just can’t get around is Mark not telling Matt what’s going on. Just seems so unlike Mark to just not be honest with Matt about it all. Would honestly lose a lot of respect for him if that’s the case. Makes me hopeful maybe Matt was just being a bit snarky and actually does have more of a clue about what’s going on.

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1 minute ago, Cheerios4u98 said:

It sounds like the same thing that happened to Tom when he got kicked out in 2015. Tom had no idea that he had been kicked out until after all of us already knew.

Except Toms manager had explicitly said Tom was out during that period lol. I doubt anyone from Matt’s camp has done the same.

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2 minutes ago, Russel Coight said:

Except Toms manager had explicitly said Tom was out during that period lol. I doubt anyone from Matt’s camp has done the same.

Did he? I thought that was the first time in 2005.

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13 minutes ago, Russel Coight said:

Except Toms manager had explicitly said Tom was out during that period lol. I doubt anyone from Matt’s camp has done the same.

I thought that was referring to playing whatever shows, I didn’t take the “Tom’s out” message to mean out of the band. Am I misremembering?

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4 minutes ago, Speedo said:

 

I thought that was referring to playing whatever shows, I didn’t take the “Tom’s out” message to mean out of the band. Am I misremembering?

“We booked January 5th to go into the studio. On December 30th, we get an e-mail from Tom’s manager saying that he has no interest in recording and that he wants to do his other, non-musical stuff and that he’s out indefinitely. There’s a flurry of e-mails going back and forth for clarification about the recording and the show and his manager sends [an e-mail] back saying, “Tom. Is. Out.” Direct quote. This is the exact same e-mail we got back in 2004 when Tom went on indefinite hiatus before.”

 

from that link above

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I mean it pretty much lines up with what we know is going on. No clue if Tom is involved or not, but if he is, it’s just preliminary long distance stuff. I don’t think it could be kept a secret if Tom was suddenly driving to LA to record with Mark and Travis. And with all they have going on I’m skeptical of how serious any of their “studio” stuff is. Long distance, mostly working by themselves for sure.

If Skiba wasn’t touring with Alkaline Trio right now it would be way more suspect. I think this is an Occam’s razor situation. Whatever Mark and Travis are doing is very independent and uncoordinated. If Tom is involved it’s still going to be independent and uncoordinated. I don’t think anyone knows what going on for sure, and it’s as simple as that.

Seems like Skiba should be more privy to what’s going on than to make that public post though? But he has never really seemed to be in the loop. Who knows. What a weird band. Has been since 2004.

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1 hour ago, Russel Coight said:

“We booked January 5th to go into the studio. On December 30th, we get an e-mail from Tom’s manager saying that he has no interest in recording and that he wants to do his other, non-musical stuff and that he’s out indefinitely. There’s a flurry of e-mails going back and forth for clarification about the recording and the show and his manager sends [an e-mail] back saying, “Tom. Is. Out.” Direct quote. This is the exact same e-mail we got back in 2004 when Tom went on indefinite hiatus before.”

 

from that link above

Ah, fair enough, thanks RC!

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1 hour ago, Russel Coight said:

“We booked January 5th to go into the studio. On December 30th, we get an e-mail from Tom’s manager saying that he has no interest in recording and that he wants to do his other, non-musical stuff and that he’s out indefinitely. There’s a flurry of e-mails going back and forth for clarification about the recording and the show and his manager sends [an e-mail] back saying, “Tom. Is. Out.” Direct quote. This is the exact same e-mail we got back in 2004 when Tom went on indefinite hiatus before.”

 

from that link above

ah, it happened twice.

Still very weird that Matt is seemingly left in the dark about the band.

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18 minutes ago, Cheerios4u98 said:

ah, it happened twice.

Still very weird that Matt is seemingly left in the dark about the band.

Yeah. It’s very weird and unlike Mark to do so. Makes me think it’s not as cut and dry as it seems. Matt can be a massive troll on his socials when he wants to be. Could just be him having a bit of fun.

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18 minutes ago, Cheerios4u98 said:

ah, it happened twice.

Still very weird that Matt is seemingly left in the dark about the band.

I don’t know, I don’t think it’s all that weird given Matt’s position in it. He’s more or less a hired gun and bands are businesses. I doubt he has much say on anything and I doubt he’s behind the scenes for much at all. Travis was more or less in the same boat for a while before Tom and Mark brought him in after years being in the band. 

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Gonna be real awkward when we all think Matt’s out and Tom’s coming back but they actually pull in fuckin’ MGK like a terrible bait and switch.

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I would assume Matt is contacted when he’s need to tour or record or market. It’s not like they’re even pulling him in to write songs either … regardless of how you feel about the past few albums, they’ve mostly been bought and paid for music.

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1 hour ago, Kay said:

Gonna be real awkward when we all think Matt’s out and Tom’s coming back but they actually pull in fuckin’ MGK like a terrible bait and switch.

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6 hours ago, Zach Wilson said:

Wow that’s fucked of Mark and Travis to just leave him guessing. Maybe this nice guy act from Mark is just that, an act. I don’t even care about Skiba but I hate fake assholes 

Or maybe mark has had other things on his mind? 
 

Anyway fuck Skiba. Absolute oddball. The worse choice possible to take over from Tom. wtf were Mark and Travis thinking? I cannot wait for him to fuck off. Mark needs to bin blink and get plus 44 back together

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7 hours ago, Zach Wilson said:

Maybe this nice guy act from Mark is just that, an act.

as a buddy of mark, that's not my read at all.

FYI people who know skiba thinks this is him trolling (yet again)

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2 minutes ago, daveyjones said:

FYI people who know skiba thinks this is him trolling (yet again)

Yep this is honestly my thoughts. He is in the middle of a Alk3 tour and probably getting harassed by blink questions daily. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he just decided to fuck with everybody that’s hounding him.

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15 hours ago, Zach Wilson said:

Yea I would actually replace everything on it lol, I just want the black hardtail body. But I don’t want to waste your time, I can’t take that project on right now. I am sure you could find a buyer for $500-$1,000 easily on reverb though!

Holy shit I wasn’t ever expecting that much for it , I some how thought it was only worth like £100 lol

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