Incredible AI music creations.

[Sun God]

6 hours ago, Ghost said:

So you wouldnt listen and woudln't even tried to understand. As expected. JarJar just JarJaring. My argument may be dumb but at least I'm not the dumb person here.

And nope. I'm not for the robots, @Dans Cliff. You either got the point. 

 

Anyways. I get people debating and having different points. I get people don't even wanting to debate. I don't get people doing the straw man thing just to shit over an opinion and  user, being disrespectful. But well, old classic blink online.

Holy shit lol this really is a thing and I’m not crazy 

 

fuck AI music tho (except the MTTS version of Fell in Love- that was rad and way better than the original) 

[Paparazzi Magnet]

It's no shocker to see another instance of nature and human craftsmanship being dwindled by an excessive need to increase productivity and profits.  We've seen it with food, where seniors today constantly remind us about the days where milk was so rich, tomatoes didn't taste like water, and strawberries were packed with such a vibrant flavor.  Today's artificial means that have improved yield and profit come at the expense of flavor and quality.  You buy chicken today at the store, but we all know that shit isn't the same it was 10 years ago.  Go to Chipotle, and it's not nearly what it used to be.  And we've unfortunately accepted it. The same way that we've accepted how plastic from IKEA is supposed to be furniture, how mass-produced TV shows on streaming services are killing Hollywood blockbusters, how iTunes and Spotify are favoring Singles while ruining the idea of a well-rounded album. You get the idea. Capitalism doesn't mix well with flavor or craftsmanship.

A.I. isn't the start, it's just the next thing. The scary difference is that it's impact will be faster and virtually in every space. I can see a future where we miss and crave the imperfections from a human-landscaped yard.  Or the words from actual human voice actors.  Or having real people as models in advertisements. But oh well.  Sure, maybe tomorrow I'll walk outside, stare at the buildings, and take note of their flaws - knowing that maybe one day there won't be any flaws at all to remind me of the human craftsmanship that once went into making or maintaining them.

We could all go on..

I don't think that's the conversation that @Ghost meant to spark here, however.  And I think he's very clearly expressed that, as well as the fact that he agrees with the overwhelming sentiment from folks too.  Yes there are shitty things about A.I. (obviously), but at the same time, there are fucking fascinating things about A.I.  Which is what his videos are meant to showcase.  I don't think Ghost is going around telling us that there's some rich culture into these whatsoever.. or that you should listen to them for pleasure on your morning runs.  He's demonstrating that a technology exists that is actually capable of producing them, and yes, there can be amusement from having your curiosities be satisfied (and perhaps blown away) when you see the next big thing that A.I. can create or automate.  There will be positive impacts from A.I. too, which is what these demonstrations are meant to make us optimistic about.  I don't think shitting on its negatives necessarily precludes us from enjoying or recognizing its fruits.

 

[High Value Man]

I didn’t read all that, but I got to the tomatoes & now I want tomatoes from the garden. 

[JarJarBlinks]

12 hours ago, Coight Has A Crush On Me said:

There will be positive impacts from A.I. too

yes, I agree.  Keep it out of anything having to do with human expression and art.

[Ghent]

12 hours ago, Coight Has A Crush On Me said:

  We've seen it with food, where seniors today constantly remind us about the days where milk was so rich, tomatoes didn't taste like water, and strawberries were packed with such a vibrant flavor.

Tomatoes and strawberries don't have as much flavor from the store because neither stays fresh after ripening long enough for transportation. It's not a conspiracy. If you've ever picked either fresh, you'll know they only last a couples days tops before they turn to mush. You would have to either grow yourself or buy local if you want full flavor. Otherwise you're getting fruit picked when not ripe and modified to be large and stay "fresh."

I grow both in my garden

As for milk, that's just due to people buying milk with fat removed. Whole milks are still available

 

[Drama-Free Jan]

OMG look at this AI art:

[JarJarBlinks]

2 minutes ago, Dans Cliff...loading said:

OMG look at this AI art:

is this Oliver and his new babe?

[Paparazzi Magnet]

1 hour ago, JarJarBlinks said:

yes, I agree.  Keep it out of anything having to do with human expression and art.

And I agree with this as well - to an extent. (I dont think this should be absolute. There are exceptions and there’s also a certain degree that I think can be tolerated). Luckily I think there are two forces that will ensure human expression and art aren’t entirely nuked as a whole by A.I.

1) The free market. (People will naturally start to recognize the value in human work and be drawn to it).

2) Copyright. (The Constitution’s Copyright Clause ensures that appropriate rulings are made that ensure we can continue “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts”). Currently there are questions over whether Copyrighted works can be used in training data, and there are also questions over what percentage of generative A.I. disqualifies a mostly human-made work from Copyright protection.

[JarJarBlinks]

Just now, Coight Has A Crush On Me said:

2) Copyright. (The Constitution’s Copyright Clause ensures that appropriate rulings are made that ensure we can continue “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts”). Currently there are questions over whether Copyrighted works can be used in training data, and there are also questions over what percentage of generative A.I. disqualifies a mostly human-made work from Copyright protection.

too bad the cat is out of the bag and all of the AI generated slop you see now is already trained on an unknown number of artists without their consent.  Maybe something changes in the future but it is already too late. 

[Paparazzi Magnet]

3 hours ago, JarJarBlinks said:

too bad the cat is out of the bag and all of the AI generated slop you see now is already trained on an unknown number of artists without their consent.  Maybe something changes in the future but it is already too late. 

I don't doubt you there.  The United States is notorious for being reactive to regulating new technology, whereas Europe is proactive.  Controversies are going to arise and it's gradually going to get less muddy.

[thongrider]

1 hour ago, Coight Has A Crush On Me said:

I don't doubt you there.  The United States is notorious for being reactive to regulating new technology, whereas Europe is proactive.  Controversies are going to arise and it's gradually going to get less muddy.

In 2044 pop "artists" will be stunned if someone else records their own music. "You make it yourself? Like ABBA? The prompt button is right there! That's very 1990s!"

[Ghost]

On 1/14/2025 at 5:44 AM, Paparazzi Magnet said:

It's no shocker to see another instance of nature and human craftsmanship being dwindled by an excessive need to increase productivity and profits.  We've seen it with food, where seniors today constantly remind us about the days where milk was so rich, tomatoes didn't taste like water, and strawberries were packed with such a vibrant flavor.  Today's artificial means that have improved yield and profit come at the expense of flavor and quality.  You buy chicken today at the store, but we all know that shit isn't the same it was 10 years ago.  Go to Chipotle, and it's not nearly what it used to be.  And we've unfortunately accepted it. The same way that we've accepted how plastic from IKEA is supposed to be furniture, how mass-produced TV shows on streaming services are killing Hollywood blockbusters, how iTunes and Spotify are favoring Singles while ruining the idea of a well-rounded album. You get the idea. Capitalism doesn't mix well with flavor or craftsmanship.

A.I. isn't the start, it's just the next thing. The scary difference is that it's impact will be faster and virtually in every space. I can see a future where we miss and crave the imperfections from a human-landscaped yard.  Or the words from actual human voice actors.  Or having real people as models in advertisements. But oh well.  Sure, maybe tomorrow I'll walk outside, stare at the buildings, and take note of their flaws - knowing that maybe one day there won't be any flaws at all to remind me of the human craftsmanship that once went into making or maintaining them.

We could all go on..

I don't think that's the conversation that @Ghost meant to spark here, however.  And I think he's very clearly expressed that, as well as the fact that he agrees with the overwhelming sentiment from folks too.  Yes there are shitty things about A.I. (obviously), but at the same time, there are fucking fascinating things about A.I.  Which is what his videos are meant to showcase.  I don't think Ghost is going around telling us that there's some rich culture into these whatsoever.. or that you should listen to them for pleasure on your morning runs.  He's demonstrating that a technology exists that is actually capable of producing them, and yes, there can be amusement from having your curiosities be satisfied (and perhaps blown away) when you see the next big thing that A.I. can create or automate.  There will be positive impacts from A.I. too, which is what these demonstrations are meant to make us optimistic about.  I don't think shitting on its negatives necessarily precludes us from enjoying or recognizing its fruits.

 

Thank you. That was the whole thing. I would take in the debate -because we all are free to open it up-, but not the disrespect just ignoring the point of the thread playing to be the 'sarcastic' intelligent member attacking others, as it's been shown. But hey, this place is no different than any other social media, and it's also polarized as hell in regards of some opinions, so I kind expect this things to happen from time to time.

Just one last thing here: I don't see any debate as a white/black sided option. You always have an infinite grey scale in between. Ignoring that is just dangerous.

[dave900]

Pretty good except for when they have Tom in to do the Na Na's.

[Drama-Free Jan]