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@Kay you got some mad self control if you don’t watch this

Playing The Adventure would be a fat triumph. We know Mark rates it, too. Some set list that. Boys have healed. Mark sounds powerful in the new song, too. Let’s go

Yeah, she needed emergency spinal surgery or something. Singer is known as Big John, he is a large lad. Horrible situation all round

That video warmed the cockles of my desiccated heart. Big ol' chorus, too

Another unbelievable Aussie band I miss the calm and the ease

You were never mine so goodbye and never mind

Unreal isn’t it. They didn’t need to go so hard on their tenth go around. BIG

This has become an integral part of my shower song rotation. I can’t see the tears when the water’s running. Cut me some slack, I almost died

For sure…handing songs to each other via usb’s is ass but Natives>Nine I start to feel my feet, they kick down walls as they move

Ahhhhh, ya fucken nightcrawler

How have I misrepresented them? I don’t think I even used the songwriter credits as a criticism initially - and JarJar/Ghent both brought it up in response to what I was saying. It was a stock response about criticism of Nine being from Tom lovers, but I was seeing it as a waste of Skiba’s talents. Deflection is a textbook response to being unable to consider valid criticism. I was just talking about the whole era lacking a fixed centre. Blink seemed to be struggling to define who/what they were at that point. Hence why it’s been largely washed away. Eh. Weak again

New era of masculinity bro. The meek shall inherit the earth

Yeah I agree about the songwriter thing but I just felt like it was a deflection. I wish Tom didn’t use them either but the end product was better ( if we’re talking OMT). No one used the phrased Tombot but JarJar just condensed what I was saying to ‘o but when TOM does it, it’s fine!’ - like no, not even talking about Tom. Just reeks of deflection to me. Hmmm. Idk. Think I said my piece in a pretty rational way. Just feels like it incenses those that can’t take valid criticism of a pretty no-mark era. Not sure at what point I got dramatic or misrepresented what anyone else was saying An again, we’ve spoke hundreds of times, do you really think I believe that only I and people I agree with can make valid points? Just another lazy misrepresentation

I listen to The First Time and On Some Emo Shit on a weekly basis, am no hater. Just calling it as I see it. As an era…it is lost to the annals and buttholes of history.

It feels like when those issues get pointed out, people just blow up and those making valid points get dismissed as haters or tombots. There are definitely songs I enjoy from NINE, but as an era - it’s the most forgettable in blink’s history. Blink would say the same.

Rian Johnson has the smallest dick this side of the Moons of Bogden. I'll let sleeping dogs lie

A real return to form! Back to the - ah, blah blah blah, fuck. Wash yourself with turpentine!

So....seems like we agree about nearly everything then. Cali is a better album. Cynical, San Diego, BTD. They're memorable. There was at least a unified vision or mission statement that threaded the album together. Nine didn't have that. Yeah, they didn't seem to integrate properly as a songwriters (ie - Mark and Matt with each other). There was enough brains and lyricism there (more than with Mark and Tom) but it didn't play out in any meaningful way. So, nothing I'm saying is as a Tombot. It's a Skiba fan that was disappointed at the waste of his talent.

idk. I critically engaged with something you like and you replied with caricatures of what I said. I can do that without infringing on your sense of self

Yawn. Not actually critically engaged with anything I've said. In fact, maybe this isn't even related to me as it has so little to do with what I said. Not surprised to see you here after your daddy tho

Yeah, but the songs produced by them haven't been forgettable. I guess that's the biggest difference. I still have a problem with them using outside writers for OMT, too. I would rather them be locked in a lab like the Untitled days, but still. It's not what I was criticising Nine for, so seems a moot point.

I couldn't give a fuck. Didn't during the Untitled 10th anniversary. Or if they did during the Skiba shows, or now. If it gives some structure/direction to a performance, idc. Who, like Aaron Rubin? Or Neighbourhoods as well? If it was Neighbourhoods, it's symptomatic of a stunted creative process - just like Nine.

Yeah, dumb to not be able to concede that maybe not everything they touch turned to gold. People misconstrue it for Skiba hate, but it's because I know how good a songwriter he is. He was wasted. Look at Trio's new album. Now imagine it with Mark. It should absolutely kill. Yeah, whilst we're here - new Star Wars was absolutely jank and forgettable too.