Tom Bot 3277 Report post Posted May 23 Just the lead guitar riff at this timestamp: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveyjones 3710 Report post Posted May 25 On 5/22/2020 at 5:26 PM, Tom Bot said: Just the lead guitar riff at this timestamp: i don't read or write tabs; i'm strictly an ear musician. but i just put on schmaltz and queued up that track. he's noodling on the G and B strings at the fourth through sixth frets. just a sort of lazy back and forth—very face to face. 4-6, 4, 4, 5-4 kind of thing. if you noodle around those notes you'll hear it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Bot 3277 Report post Posted May 25 18 minutes ago, daveyjones said: i don't read or write tabs; i'm strictly an ear musician. but i just put on schmaltz and queued up that track. he's noodling on the G and B strings at the fourth through sixth frets. just a sort of lazy back and forth—very face to face. 4-6, 4, 4, 5-4 kind of thing. if you noodle around those notes you'll hear it. Sweet, thanks Davey! I notice he also tunes his guitar half a step down for a lot of songs. I know it's a basic riff, but damn does it sound great. Kind of reminds me of Tom Delonge circa Enema/TOYPAJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveyjones 3710 Report post Posted May 25 18 minutes ago, Tom Bot said: I know it's a basic riff, but damn does it sound great. Kind of reminds me of Tom Delonge circa Enema/TOYPAJ. yup, and tom was aping trevor from face to face. if you listen to big choice, you can spot all the guitar parts tom lifted for cheshire cat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blinkstillrules 251 Report post Posted May 26 On 5/24/2020 at 11:30 PM, daveyjones said: yup, and tom was aping trevor from face to face. if you listen to big choice, you can spot all the guitar parts tom lifted for cheshire cat. Big Choice is definitely my favorite Face To Face record. I love that album. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveyjones 3710 Report post Posted May 26 1 hour ago, blinkstillrules said: Big Choice is definitely my favorite Face To Face record. I love that album. "touchdown boy" is just tom's take on "promises." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blinkstillrules 251 Report post Posted May 26 3 hours ago, daveyjones said: "touchdown boy" is just tom's take on "promises." You can definitely hear the influence on CC. I think Tom does it better though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Bot 3277 Report post Posted June 19 @daveyjones I had someone on Reddit hook me up with a tab, including the live version. Check it out: https://imgur.com/R0URS2X Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveyjones 3710 Report post Posted June 19 1 minute ago, Tom Bot said: @daveyjones I had someone on Reddit hook me up with a tab, including the live version. Check it out: https://imgur.com/R0URS2X i don't read or use guitar tablature. just listen to the notes and play what you hear. it's not a metallica solo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedo 11028 Report post Posted June 19 1 minute ago, daveyjones said: i don't read or use guitar tablature. just listen to the notes and play what you hear. it's not a metallica solo. That takes a while to learn how to do properly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveyjones 3710 Report post Posted June 20 3 hours ago, Speedo said: That takes a while to learn how to do properly. yea i didn't mean to be snobby about it. music by ear comes naturally to me (i never had to learn how to do it) but i can't for the life of me read sheet music or tablature. which is its own disadvantage, especially if all your bandmates do! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedo 11028 Report post Posted June 20 1 hour ago, daveyjones said: yea i didn't mean to be snobby about it. music by ear comes naturally to me (i never had to learn how to do it) but i can't for the life of me read sheet music or tablature. which is its own disadvantage, especially if all your bandmates do! I started out learning Blink 182 songs on tab! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheerios4u98 10274 Report post Posted June 20 My first instruments were piano and clarinet which both required me to read sheet music, but guitar sheet music makes no sense to me when there are 8000 different ways to play one note. Tab is all I can read for guitar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveyjones 3710 Report post Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, Cheerios4u98 said: Tab is all I can read for guitar. i suppose it's useful for deconstructing more complicted lead parts. probably the only way i could learn to play mr. brett's solos is by learning to read tabs! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedo 11028 Report post Posted June 20 40 minutes ago, daveyjones said: i suppose it's useful for deconstructing more complicted lead parts. probably the only way i could learn to play mr. brett's solos is by learning to read tabs! That's only IF they're tabbed properly ... a good portion of 'em are completely wrong. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveyjones 3710 Report post Posted June 20 39 minutes ago, Speedo said: That's only IF they're tabbed properly yet being an ear musician, at least they'd provide a blueprint or roadmap to correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedo 11028 Report post Posted June 20 25 minutes ago, daveyjones said: yet being an ear musician, at least they'd provide a blueprint or roadmap to correct. You know, the problem I found with tabs is you never really develop technique, or maybe it's just me. I could see what notes I needed but had trouble putting them together in a way that sounds like it should. I started playing guitar in the early morning hours of May 11th 2002, 10 minutes after getting home from the pop disaster tour. I took my mom's classical guitar and stayed up all night fucking around on it. I played solely off of tablature for the next few years and while I was great at playing chords I couldn't noodle worth a damn. I have only really picked up playing by ear in the last year or so and the noodling has gotten better but years of poor technique and never learning scales or theory has left me well inadequate as a player. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveyjones 3710 Report post Posted June 20 15 hours ago, Speedo said: I started playing guitar in the early morning hours of May 11th 2002 by 2002 i had already recorded with three or four bands. #OldManWords Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedo 11028 Report post Posted June 20 1 minute ago, daveyjones said: by 2002 i had already recorded with three or four bands. #OldManWords Probably walked fifteen miles in the snow to get to the studio, uphill both ways too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveyjones 3710 Report post Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, Speedo said: Probably walked fifteen miles in the snow to get to the studio, uphill both ways too! no. but i did surf the nets and chat on mIRC via landline dial-up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
