Fun, Catchy Pop-Punk Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Just the lead guitar riff at this timestamp: Quote
daveyjones Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 On 5/22/2020 at 5:26 PM, Tom Bot said: Just the lead guitar riff at this timestamp: i don't read or write tabs; i'm strictly an ear musician. but i just put on schmaltz and queued up that track. he's noodling on the G and B strings at the fourth through sixth frets. just a sort of lazy back and forth—very face to face. 4-6, 4, 4, 5-4 kind of thing. if you noodle around those notes you'll hear it. Quote
Fun, Catchy Pop-Punk Posted May 25, 2020 Author Posted May 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, daveyjones said: i don't read or write tabs; i'm strictly an ear musician. but i just put on schmaltz and queued up that track. he's noodling on the G and B strings at the fourth through sixth frets. just a sort of lazy back and forth—very face to face. 4-6, 4, 4, 5-4 kind of thing. if you noodle around those notes you'll hear it. Sweet, thanks Davey! I notice he also tunes his guitar half a step down for a lot of songs. I know it's a basic riff, but damn does it sound great. Kind of reminds me of Tom Delonge circa Enema/TOYPAJ. Quote
daveyjones Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tom Bot said: I know it's a basic riff, but damn does it sound great. Kind of reminds me of Tom Delonge circa Enema/TOYPAJ. yup, and tom was aping trevor from face to face. if you listen to big choice, you can spot all the guitar parts tom lifted for cheshire cat. Quote
blinkstillrules Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 On 5/24/2020 at 11:30 PM, daveyjones said: yup, and tom was aping trevor from face to face. if you listen to big choice, you can spot all the guitar parts tom lifted for cheshire cat. Big Choice is definitely my favorite Face To Face record. I love that album. 2 Quote
daveyjones Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, blinkstillrules said: Big Choice is definitely my favorite Face To Face record. I love that album. "touchdown boy" is just tom's take on "promises." Quote
blinkstillrules Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 3 hours ago, daveyjones said: "touchdown boy" is just tom's take on "promises." You can definitely hear the influence on CC. I think Tom does it better though. Quote
Fun, Catchy Pop-Punk Posted June 19, 2020 Author Posted June 19, 2020 @daveyjones I had someone on Reddit hook me up with a tab, including the live version. Check it out: https://imgur.com/R0URS2X Quote
daveyjones Posted June 19, 2020 Posted June 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Tom Bot said: @daveyjones I had someone on Reddit hook me up with a tab, including the live version. Check it out: https://imgur.com/R0URS2X i don't read or use guitar tablature. just listen to the notes and play what you hear. it's not a metallica solo. Quote
Speedo Posted June 19, 2020 Posted June 19, 2020 1 minute ago, daveyjones said: i don't read or use guitar tablature. just listen to the notes and play what you hear. it's not a metallica solo. That takes a while to learn how to do properly. Quote
daveyjones Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Speedo said: That takes a while to learn how to do properly. yea i didn't mean to be snobby about it. music by ear comes naturally to me (i never had to learn how to do it) but i can't for the life of me read sheet music or tablature. which is its own disadvantage, especially if all your bandmates do! Quote
Speedo Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, daveyjones said: yea i didn't mean to be snobby about it. music by ear comes naturally to me (i never had to learn how to do it) but i can't for the life of me read sheet music or tablature. which is its own disadvantage, especially if all your bandmates do! I started out learning Blink 182 songs on tab! Quote
Cheerios4u98 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 My first instruments were piano and clarinet which both required me to read sheet music, but guitar sheet music makes no sense to me when there are 8000 different ways to play one note. Tab is all I can read for guitar. Quote
daveyjones Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cheerios4u98 said: Tab is all I can read for guitar. i suppose it's useful for deconstructing more complicted lead parts. probably the only way i could learn to play mr. brett's solos is by learning to read tabs! Quote
Speedo Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 40 minutes ago, daveyjones said: i suppose it's useful for deconstructing more complicted lead parts. probably the only way i could learn to play mr. brett's solos is by learning to read tabs! That's only IF they're tabbed properly ... a good portion of 'em are completely wrong. 1 Quote
daveyjones Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, Speedo said: That's only IF they're tabbed properly yet being an ear musician, at least they'd provide a blueprint or roadmap to correct. Quote
Speedo Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, daveyjones said: yet being an ear musician, at least they'd provide a blueprint or roadmap to correct. You know, the problem I found with tabs is you never really develop technique, or maybe it's just me. I could see what notes I needed but had trouble putting them together in a way that sounds like it should. I started playing guitar in the early morning hours of May 11th 2002, 10 minutes after getting home from the pop disaster tour. I took my mom's classical guitar and stayed up all night fucking around on it. I played solely off of tablature for the next few years and while I was great at playing chords I couldn't noodle worth a damn. I have only really picked up playing by ear in the last year or so and the noodling has gotten better but years of poor technique and never learning scales or theory has left me well inadequate as a player. Quote
daveyjones Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Speedo said: I started playing guitar in the early morning hours of May 11th 2002 by 2002 i had already recorded with three or four bands. #OldManWords Quote
Speedo Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, daveyjones said: by 2002 i had already recorded with three or four bands. #OldManWords Probably walked fifteen miles in the snow to get to the studio, uphill both ways too! Quote
daveyjones Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Speedo said: Probably walked fifteen miles in the snow to get to the studio, uphill both ways too! no. but i did surf the nets and chat on mIRC via landline dial-up. Quote
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