One more time deluxe thread

[Coddled Jan]

21 minutes ago, twentytwenty said:

1. A sampled guitar is not the same as a loop.

2. a guitar loop can be recorded by anyone, including Tom.

3. I’m not making anything up, you’re the one that stated that there’s no real instruments on the song, not me. 

4. a session guitarist is a real guitarist, ffs! 😂
 

these all are things that have nothing to do with you liking the song or not, these are your own fabricated facts that I questioned.

 

I'm not having an uppity studio production argument. 

Blink never used sampled guitars, guitar loops, session guitarists until Tom went off to bringing others to AvA and Blink went to Cali.  I feel like you just don't want to accept the fact that ruins it for some people or are trying to do this semantics thing about studio production because you produce music.. it's very obvious what I don't like about it.  If Tom wrote and played guitar for the riff here, which it doesn't sound like it, that still only takes the song up to about a 3/10.  

[twentytwenty]

Just now, Jans Stand said:

I'm not having an uppity studio production argument. 

Blink never used sampled guitars, guitar loops, session guitarists until Tom went off to bringing others to AvA and Blink went to Cali.  I feel like you just don't want to accept the fact that ruins it for some people or are trying to do this semantics thing about studio production because you produce music.. it's very obvious what I don't like about it.  If Tom wrote and played guitar for the riff here, that still only takes the song up to about a 3/10.  

I’m not doing any of that, you said there’s no real guitars on the song. This has nothing to do with me producing shit. 

[Coddled Jan]

4 minutes ago, M!ke said:

You must really be drunk, I didn't say he didn't record guitar on that song.  Unless wait... do you only care about guitar as an instrument? And you couldn't care less about drums and bass, Is that your weird issue here? 

You asked if you could love What Went Wrong..  that literally is Tom and his guitar. 

Your guys standards have just lowered significantly.  

[Coddled Jan]

Just now, twentytwenty said:

I’m not doing any of that, you said there’s no real guitars on the song. This has nothing to do with me producing shit. 

Okay, well that's not what I meant, so get over it.  Real guitar would be Tom playing it, not a session or loop/sample w.e.  I honestly wouldn't consider a loop or anything in their studio software a real guitar either, even if they technically are something pre-recorded. But I digress. 

[M!ke]

5 minutes ago, Jans Stand said:

You asked if you could love What Went Wrong..  that literally is Tom and his guitar. 

Your guys standards have just lowered significantly.  

My question that you very clearly drunkenly did not understand was: because What Went Wrong has no BASS or DRUMS, does that mean I can't love that beautiful song as I do? If not, what makes having no guitar so much of a bigger sin than having both no bass and no drums? Again, keep in mind your argument originally was that Take Me In has no guitar whatsoever, and that's why I can't hold it up against my favorite slow blink songs which again, includes What Went Wrong. 

[thirtythought]

😂 🍿

[twentytwenty]

Must suck for all the bands in the world that Tom aren’t a member of, according to Jan they don’t have real guitars on their songs

[Coddled Jan]

The mental gymnastics to just say you have lowered your standards is bizarre.  It's a very valid reason to not like a song, when Blink never had any of that from their entire discography pre-California. 

[twentytwenty]

4 minutes ago, Jans Stand said:

The mental gymnastics to just say you have lowered your standards is bizarre.  It's a very valid reason to not like a song, when Blink never had any of that from their entire discography pre-California. 

This is not what’s up for discussion though.

[Coddled Jan]

6 minutes ago, M!ke said:

My question that you very clearly drunkenly did not understand was: because What Went Wrong has no BASS or DRUMS, does that mean I can't love that beautiful song as I do? If not, what makes having no guitar so much of a bigger sin than having both no bass and no drums? Again, keep in mind your argument originally was that Take Me In has no guitar whatsoever, and that's why I can't hold it up against my favorite slow blink songs which again, includes What Went Wrong. 

You are more than welcome to like the song if you want to.  I'm just very politely telling you the reasons why I do not.  It's a very simple concept.  All members of blink played on What Went Wrong though, that's the difference.  I don't like all these extra studio effects much, especially not sampled in guitar or studio guitarist coming in instead of Tom writing and playing something, personally.  That's just not blink to me. 

[Coddled Jan]

3 minutes ago, twentytwenty said:

This is not what’s up for discussion though.

Because you made up your own argument in your head.  you're like desperately latching onto this studio session guitarist vs sampled guitar semantics like I give a shit.  I'm clearly talking about Tom playing or not vs someone else, I don't care what argument you think you won. It's a suppper simple concept I'm expressing here. 

[M!ke]

1 minute ago, Jans Stand said:

You are more than welcome to like the song if you want to.  I'm just very politely telling you the reasons why I do not.  It's a very simple concept.  All members of blink played on What Went Wrong though, that's the difference.  I don't like all these extra studio effects much, especially not sampled in guitar or studio guitarist coming in instead of Tom writing and playing something, personally.  That's just not blink to me. 

Lol this is not the same guy that initially got upset because I had an opinion that didn't match his. Get some sleep bud, I think you've had a long night haha.

[Russel Coight]

It’s perfectly okay to say you don’t like the song Jan. you don’t have to make up some bullshit reason like “tom didn’t play it’s a guitar sample” to justify it.

Just say “hi my name is Jan, I haven’t had sex with a woman in years and I’m not a fan of the song Take Me In”. It’s that easy.

[Coddled Jan]

2 minutes ago, M!ke said:

Lol this is not the same guy that initially got upset because I had an opinion that didn't match his. Get some sleep bud, I think you've had a long night haha.

Remember to Forget Me.

[twentytwenty]

5 minutes ago, Jans Stand said:

Because you made up your own argument in your head.  you're like desperately latching onto this studio session guitarist vs sampled guitar semantics like I give a shit.  I'm clearly talking about Tom playing or not vs someone else, I don't care what argument you think you won. It's a suppper simple concept I'm expressing here. 

No, I am latching onto you saying there’s no guitars on the song at all.

[Coddled Jan]

2 minutes ago, twentytwenty said:

No, I am latching onto you saying there’s no guitars on the song at all.

You got me man!  I definitely meant that there's no guitar in the song at all, that roaring sound in the chorus is definitely what I was referring to.  Major gotcha! darnit 

[M!ke]

6 minutes ago, Jans Stand said:

Remember to Forget Me.

One final thought. Since Mark and Travis are apparently in What Went Wrong (not sure if that's true, but they could be, someone is playing that oboe or is that a clarinet? Doesn't matter, I'll entertain that they're both in there regardless of the supposed contributions) and that makes that song ok as a slow blink song under your strange logic.  Well doesn't the fact that Tom sings in Take Me In count as full blink contribution in that same vein? Hell even IF that guitar ain't Tom, it seems clear to me that Take Me In is more all 3 members of blink than What Went Wrong is. 

[twentytwenty]

3 minutes ago, Jans Stand said:

You got me man!  I definitely meant that there's no guitar in the song at all, that roaring sound in the chorus is definitely what I was referring to.  Major gotcha! darnit 

I’m gonna leave you with your buzz now, this has been fun!

[Russel Coight]

Seriously embarrassing stuff here Jan.

[Coddled Jan]

Oops!

Looks like I might know the band better than the boys in this thread?  *tsk tsk*.