The blink 182 general discussion topic

[FAP]

4 hours ago, daveyjones said:

as a buddy of mark, that's not my read at all.

FYI people who know skiba thinks this is him trolling (yet again)

Yea I don’t really think Mark’s a fake ass hole that was kind of a drunken statement, just seems odd and out of character that he would do leave Skiba in the dark . And yea maybe he’s trolling! 

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4 hours ago, Mr Blonde said:

Or maybe mark has had other things on his mind? 
 

Anyway fuck Skiba. Absolute oddball. The worse choice possible to take over from Tom. wtf were Mark and Travis thinking? I cannot wait for him to fuck off. Mark needs to bin blink and get plus 44 back together

I agree I don’t think Skiba was ever a good fit for blink. But who would have been? Honestly even Tom himself was horrible for the band, we’ll never get 1998-2001 Tom back (the best Tom) 

[FAP]

6 hours ago, Kay said:

Gonna be real awkward when we all think Matt’s out and Tom’s coming back but they actually pull in fuckin’ MGK like a terrible bait and switch.

I’ll fucking burn this place down 

[M!ke]

3 hours ago, Cheerios4u98 said:

I know we're in a pandemic and Mark and Travis have had serious health scares but I do find it odd/funny that they're talking about how they're recording new music remotely when all the promotion for Dogs Eating Dogs revolved around the fact that they write their best music "when we're in the same room together" and that blink-182 was finally back "for real" because this time they'd be writing the music together instead of separately like they did on Neighborhoods.

It goes deeper than that.  Prior to breaking up in 2005, they were trying to make things work, and Tom was saying the only way he could work on the next album would be remotely, and that just wasn't gonna work for Mark and Travis (which to be fair, outside of The Postal Service, no other bands were really doing that for full albums back then, the tech was only just getting there to be viable, in fact in the case of The Postal Service, they literally sent their material through the mail, not over the internet).

But that's the thing, times do change.  I would still so much prefer for them to all be in the same room for recording, but it's legit so easy and viable today to record in different studios across the country and get the new music out in nearly as timely of a matter, it will take a bit longer, but it's not the logistical nightmare it used to be.  I don't feel annoyed by this way of recording today, than I did even a decade ago.  It's not as good as being their together, but it absolutely can work.

[M!ke]

Also that Skiba post feels like a joke to me.  I mean I feel like what Mark said in that GQ article last year kinda said it all, “I don't know how that would work if it's all four of us. Like we're all going to live in the same house again?”  Mark seems to envision (at least as recently as December) the future of the band with all 4 of them.  I can not fathom Travis being the guy to say Matt has to go.  So that ultimately leads to the idea of, if there is any truth to Matt's post, is Tom saying he'll only return if they give Matt the boot?  Would be a pretty shitty way to start his return in the band.  I dunno, none of that really feels in character with them and who they are today.  Certainly possible, but my money says Skiba was probably just having a little fun.  

Regardless of the outcome, I think they could work as a four piece, and I'd love to see them try if only for one album.  In a weird way it would kinda mirror Green Day in how Jason White was made an official member of the band, but only for the trilogy and then it was just the three of them again after (even though Jason still tours with them, that whole situation is strange when you think about it).

[Maddey]

38 minutes ago, M!ke said:

In a weird way it would kinda mirror Green Day in how Jason White was made an official member of the band, but only for the trilogy and then it was just the three of them again after (even though Jason still tours with them, that whole situation is strange when you think about it).

But I don’t think Jason ever considered himself as an official member though. He joined the recordings of the trilogy albums because they wanted more of a live sound on them + he’d already toured with them for a decade. He has explained in a podcast that he likes the anonymity and that he’ll always view GD as a three-piece. Never been much drama between the GD members (luckily!)

[M!ke]

15 minutes ago, Maddey said:

But I don’t think Jason ever considered himself as an official member though. He joined the recordings of the trilogy albums because they wanted more of a live sound on them + he’d already toured with them for a decade. He has explained in a podcast that he likes the anonymity and that he’ll always view GD as a three-piece. Never been much drama between the GD members (luckily!)

Honestly maybe that band could really use some good drama to shake up their dynamics. They've gotten so stale and boring.  Last truly decent album was 21st Century Breakdown and that was just a much weaker rehash of American Idiot.  I used to love Green Day, they still put on a great live show, but I really don't feel like they can write great new music anymore.

[Scott.]

2 hours ago, Zach Wilson said:

I agree I don’t think Skiba was ever a good fit for blink. But who would have been? Honestly even Tom himself was horrible for the band, we’ll never get 1998-2001 Tom back (the best Tom) 

They should have gone for Alex Gaskarth especially if they were gonna make that bubble gum rock like California and nine. Ridiculous really when you think about it, they add Skiba and proceed to make two pop albums when he joined I was excited because I thought we’d get some dark raw sounding shit but we end up with Selena Gomez shite

[twentytwenty]

7 hours ago, Cheerios4u98 said:

I still hope we get one more Matt album at least.

You and me both! 

22 minutes ago, Maddey said:

But I don’t think Jason ever considered himself as an official member though. He joined the recordings of the trilogy albums because they wanted more of a live sound on them + he’d already toured with them for a decade. He has explained in a podcast that he likes the anonymity and that he’ll always view GD as a three-piece. Never been much drama between the GD members (luckily!)

The Sums did it right with brownsounds return and it felt really natural at the time and still do. But the blink situation is different imo.

Green Day making Jason a full member could have gone either way, he was still only a backing musician 

[vic vinegar]

Skiba. Is. Out.

I hope so, at least. We’ll always have Black Rain.

But really, I see the only move to bring back excitement to casual blink fans and to have that California-style of goodwill is to bring back Tom. Not saying it’d be great for the band’s internal mechanisms, but that would generate similar news/interest as when Skiba was first announced 7 years ago.

[Maddey]

50 minutes ago, M!ke said:

Honestly maybe that band could really use some good drama to shake up their dynamics. They've gotten so stale and boring.  Last truly decent album was 21st Century Breakdown and that was just a much weaker rehash of American Idiot.  I used to love Green Day, they still put on a great live show, but I really don't feel like they can write great new music anymore.

I personally don’t think the drama has helped blink writing great new music either but that’s just my opinion. It helps keeping them interesting though

[twentytwenty]

Nine is a really fcking good album. California and deluxe isn't bad either. No matter what happens we still got three albums from them. And if it's actually true that matt is being booted then the positive is that he will be able to do Trio full time again! 

I really wanna know what happened with that scrapped album that was almost kinda done? Coming from NINE my guess is that album is pretty damn good! Would be a waste if it just dissapears on a harddrive somewhere

[twentytwenty]

1 hour ago, M!ke said:

Honestly maybe that band could really use some good drama to shake up their dynamics. They've gotten so stale and boring.  Last truly decent album was 21st Century Breakdown and that was just a much weaker rehash of American Idiot.  I used to love Green Day, they still put on a great live show, but I really don't feel like they can write great new music anymore.

Haha it's funny how things can be different for people. As an example, for me, 21CB was where they got it right

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21 hours ago, Mr Blonde said:

They should have gone for Alex Gaskarth especially if they were gonna make that bubble gum rock like California and nine. Ridiculous really when you think about it, they add Skiba and proceed to make two pop albums when he joined I was excited because I thought we’d get some dark raw sounding shit but we end up with Selena Gomez shite

Hell no , Skiba is alot better than that douche

[Scott.]

26 minutes ago, Zach Wilson said:

Hell no , Skiba is a at better than that douche

But Gaskarth is more suited to California/Nine blink than Skiba

[FAP]

I see your point 

[scoobs]

11 hours ago, Kay said:

Gonna be real awkward when we all think Matt’s out and Tom’s coming back but they actually pull in fuckin’ MGK like a terrible bait and switch.

Now we’re talking!

[M!ke]

4 hours ago, Maddey said:

I personally don’t think the drama has helped blink writing great new music either but that’s just my opinion. It helps keeping them interesting though

Didn't say it did.  I wasn't talking about blink at that point.  I was talking about what might be good for Green Day.  The band is just a hollow husk of it's former self with no signs of doing anything to change that. They need something to reinvigorate that band.  It doesn't have to be drama, but they need to do something cuz whatever music-writing magic they used to have is long gone and dried up.

4 hours ago, twentytwenty said:

Haha it's funny how things can be different for people. As an example, for me, 21CB was where they got it right

But I didn't say 21CB was bad.  It's a fine album, like legit their last album that I would say is decent that I ever revisit.  But let's be real, it's also a bit of a phoned in album, a repeat of the album they did before that was fine in it's own right, but when measured against the album before it, you see a band that was repeating itself with a lesser take on the album right before it.  Which is a stance I wouldn't fault others from having for Take Off Your Pants and Jacket compared to Enema before it.   The caveat there being though that I feel like they still managed to follow up TOYPAJ with their best album yet.  While I don't think Green Day has done anything better (or even as good) as American Idiot since they released that album. 

[epitaphellcat]

I’ve always thought the big difference with Green Day and blink is the GD guys really are best friends through and through so it is still “fun” and less “business”.  It doesn’t come across in stage banter, videos etc but thats why the side projects they’ve done they’ve done together ie. The Network, Foxboro Hot Tubs, even Pinhead Gunpowder, Longshot, Oakland Coffee Co.  And they are all extremely supportive of one another when doing so.  

That’s always where the break imo has been is there’s full transparency on the vision in the Green Day camp with all 3 guys knowing full well that their bread and butter is GD but wanna go try something different it seems like it’s a collective “cool let’s do it!”

Blinks side stuff has always seemed to take away from the band from a personal stand point with the weird jealousy and awkwardness of it all.  And part of blinks  charm is the idea that they all are best friends (more importantly Mark and Tom) when who they’ve grown up to be just isn’t the same as when they were in their 20s but they still want to reap the benefits and success of what they built.

[twentytwenty]

3 hours ago, M!ke said:

But I didn't say 21CB was bad.  It's a fine album, like legit their last album that I would say is decent that I ever revisit.  But let's be real, it's also a bit of a phoned in album, a repeat of the album they did before that was fine in it's own right, but when measured against the album before it, you see a band that was repeating itself with a lesser take on the album right before it.  Which is a stance I wouldn't fault others from having for Take Off Your Pants and Jacket compared to Enema before it.   The caveat there being though that I feel like they still managed to follow up TOYPAJ with their best album yet.  While I don't think Green Day has done anything better (or even as good) as American Idiot since they released that album. 

I don't think you really read or understood what I was saying.