Grilliam Shatner Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Ghent said: He hasn't sounded good live since before Untitled if we're being honest 100% agreed. The TOYPAJ Tour is without question, in my opinion, their best sounding tour and the last time they sounded really good. They had a run of sounding great from the 4th quarter of 1998 as Travis was finding his groove with their songs and they were writing Enema, through that TOYPAJ Tour. So this included these pre-Enema shows, The Loserkids Tour, The Mark, Tom, and Travis Show, and The TOYPAJ Tour. After that, they started sounding like shit on The Pop Disaster Tour with Green Day. The pre-Enema shows I’m talking about in the 4th quarter of 1998 are like this show in Montreal on 9/26/98. What a magical show! Travis fresh in the band and big things were brewing! They played gems like Apple Shampoo and Enthused in this show with Travis, and an early rendition of Dumpweed that is way different than how it ended up. Check this show out. You can also search for the songs individually on YouTube, like “dammit Montreal” to find them: Dammit was their biggest song at the time This show is magical, I love watching it lol. Just wondering if they had any idea just how huge they were about to become…they were definitely finding their stride here with Travis…and Tom’s tone with his Les Paul w/ Invader was A-1. Some speculate this guitar was used to record a lot of Enema. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Even on the BCR tour Tom sounds like ass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RELEASE SOMETHING Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Ghent said: He hasn't sounded good live since before Untitled if we're being honest He's never really sounded 'good' live to be honest. That was always many people's gripes with blink back in their day. But as for blink stans (us), he was never kind of bad live until untitled, and unbearably bad after untitled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grilliam Shatner Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Kay said: Even on the BCR tour Tom sounds like ass Yup, exactly. That would have been his most recent tour right after the TOYPAJ Tour. I think he just stopped caring for whatever reason, which is fucking lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grilliam Shatner Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, LOTR4-King of the Weekend said: He's never really sounded 'good' live to be honest. That was always many people's gripes with blink back in their day. But as for blink stans (us), he was never kind of bad live until untitled, and unbearably bad after untitled. Yea, I would never say he sounded great. But he definitely played good and sang alright before, but like you’ve said became horrible. The quality in their sound from TOYPAJ Tour and Pop Disaster Tour on the same songs is extremely noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 I like the way Tom sounds with pitch correction during the live stuff. The AVA live stream from last year I thought was pretty decent. Blink in 2004 always sounded good for the Mark songs. Tom did have his moments like Down at that award show in 2004 or I Miss You at the Pepsi Smash show, but they sound like they have pitch correction on those videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grilliam Shatner Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Nosferatu said: I like the way Tom sounds with pitch correction during the live stuff. The AVA live stream from last year I thought was pretty decent. Blink in 2004 always sounded good for the Mark songs. Tom did have his moments like Down at that award show in 2004 or I Miss You at the Pepsi Smash show, but they sound like they have pitch correction on those videos. That’s so lame though to require pitch correction. I think it’s even more lame for the fans that are like “oH hE sOuNdS sO gOoD” despite knowing he’s using pitch correction. As if someone should be heralded for using fucking auto tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt. Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, Iced_Fappuccino said: That’s so lame though to require pitch correction. I think it’s even more lame for the fans that are like “oH hE sOuNdS sO gOoD” despite knowing he’s using pitch correction. As if someone should be heralded for using fucking auto tune. Everyone uses pitch correction and they have been for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grilliam Shatner Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 52 minutes ago, Speedo said: Everyone uses pitch correction and they have been for decades. Define everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt. Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Iced_Fappuccino said: Define everyone Literally all of your favorite bands in the studio and if they are big enough to have a production team live. It’s a good tool to use and when used properly it pushes music to the next level and can help bring out a quality performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt. Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 The fact that you think it’s a bad thing tells me you have a gross misunderstanding of what pitch correction is and how it should be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grilliam Shatner Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Speedo said: The fact that you think it’s a bad thing tells me you have a gross misunderstanding of what pitch correction is and how it should be used. Oh, so you can’t answer my question? I asked you to define everyone, but here you are dodging and deflecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheerios4u98 Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 My band in high school used live pitch-correction (sometimes) at shows because we were specifically going for that robotic voice sound that was really cool for like two months in the mid 2000s. It was a great cheat lol. not that we were trying to hide it. The point was to sound electronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grilliam Shatner Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, Speedo said: Literally all of your favorite bands in the studio and if they are big enough to have a production team live. It’s a good tool to use and when used properly it pushes music to the next level and can help bring out a quality performance. Sure bud. You know what else can bring out a good performance? Talent and someone who actually knows how to sing. Not everyone does this shit, speak for your own mediocre punk bands that you listen to. I wonder how bands ever got by before 1997 when auto tune/pitch correction was invented! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RELEASE SOMETHING Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 MGK, actually is on record for not using pitch correction live at concert. One if the only ones though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 15 hours ago, Iced_Fappuccino said: That’s so lame though to require pitch correction. I think it’s even more lame for the fans that are like “oH hE sOuNdS sO gOoD” despite knowing he’s using pitch correction. As if someone should be heralded for using fucking auto tune. I dunno, I don't mind if bands use it. I much prefer how AVA sounded on their live stream and blink on that house of horrors show from last year. Mark sounded great with it. Both have sounded like utter shit for years, although when watching them in person they sound better than they do on the live videos from YT and shit. Although I do like how blink sounded on the Las Vegas show in 2012 was it? or 2011? That was without pitch correction and was enjoyable enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarJarBlinks Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 15 hours ago, Speedo said: Everyone uses pitch correction and they have been for decades. I actually don't think this is true. Especially in the "PUNX" genres. I mean look at blink, Mark mostly sounds pretty good, but sometimes struggles mightily with certain songs/parts. It'd sound way better if he had assistance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 10 hours ago, LOTR4-King of the Weekend said: MGK, actually is on record for not using pitch correction live at concert. One if the only ones though. That's because he is an authentic PUNK 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grilliam Shatner Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, JarJarBlinks said: I actually don't think this is true. Especially in the "PUNX" genres. I mean look at blink, Mark mostly sounds pretty good, but sometimes struggles mightily with certain songs/parts. It'd sound way better if he had assistance. It’s definitely not true at all. Anyone that does think it’s true may benefit from checking out some more authentic and talented bands/artists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheerios4u98 Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 17 hours ago, LOTR4-King of the Weekend said: MGK, actually is on record for not using pitch correction live at concert. One if the only ones though. One of the last true musicians 😤🙏🏻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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