Revisiting American Idiot - it's perfect

[M!ke]

As someone who acknowledges the unspoken rivalry between blink-182 and Green Day for the top spot of the pop-punk kingdom, and as someone who overall prefers blink over Green Day, I can not deny what a fucking masterpiece that American Idiot is. A lot of this thought is coming from listening to the 20th anniversary release with the demos and live recordings. They were undeniably in the fucking zone, I don't know if the tale is true that the album they were working on was stolen or not, frankly, it doesn't matter, credit where credit is due, it is their magnum opus, yes, I say that it is better than Dookie and Kerplunk, don't waste your time with me on that. I still think blink's Untitled narrowly edges it out, but holy shit, those 2 years were quite a fucking time to be pop punk fans. And I have a lot of shit to throw at Green Day in the years since, but there is no denying for me that this album was a masterpiece. 

[Speedo]

It’s fine. 

Kerplunk, Dookie, Insomniac, Nimrod, Warning, and 21st Century are better.

[Speedo]

After that Green Day went to shit.

[Maddey]

Agree with you Mike.

I’ve loved it to bits since the first time I heard it but really fallen back in love with it again this summer. This album has been such a comfort to me through life in so many ways I can’t even imagine where I’d be without it. Still get the chills when listening to it even though I’ve heard the songs thousands of times. Masterpiece it is. 

[Dans Cliff...loading]

It’s a great album

But I like songs on their older albums better.  

one of my favorite experiences getting this album, I remember having to go to a book store to get it because it was sold out everywhere. It’s definitely their Untitled.  Jesus of Suburbia was so mega at the time. The transitioning between songs is cool, I think it’s a bit too serious for my liking in retrospect, like my teenage emotions are gone.  They definitely have not existed to me since then, nothing since was anything special and I won’t be convinced otherwise

[thongrider]

It's very far for perfect and very backloaded. The last few songs are great though. Last half almost.

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9 minutes ago, thongrider said:

It's very far for perfect and very backloaded. The last few songs are great though. Last half almost.

Around She’s A Rebel (underrated) on is what I go back and listen to.  Skip September though.

[Maddey]

Letterbomb and Homecoming are my tops. 
 

 

[twentytwenty]

3 hours ago, Speedo said:

It’s fine. 

Kerplunk, Dookie, Insomniac, Nimrod, Warning, and 21st Century are better.

Finally some love for 21CB! Love that album

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57 minutes ago, Maddey said:

Letterbomb and Homecoming are my tops. 
 

 

I was just going to type this.  Those songs are so low key top notch. 

20 minutes ago, twentytwenty said:

Finally some love for 21CB! Love that album

I need to revisit this, since I see people admire it often, I just thought it was beyond boring garbage both times I tried it in the past.  Doesn't help they just completely fell off and ran out of material then or after to clutter it. 

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American Idiot - good for the time, obviously, but overplayed so not rating, 7/10

Jesus of Suburbia - excellent, don't feel like listening it anymore though 8.3/10

Holiday - good song, might be my favorite on relisten, overplayed it back in the day 8.5/10 

Blvd - it's pretty good, boring chorus "wore calogne" line doesn't fit much here 7/10

Are We The Waiting - don't like this one never did, 6/10  - St. Jimmy - used to love this song, just pretty good now, 7/10

Novacaine - I like it, flows well to next song, 7.5/10 - She's A Rebel - From Chicago, To Toronto! - 8.5/10

Extraordinary Girl - I do kind of like the mood it sets for the back half, 8/10 - Letterbomb - Where have all..the bastards gone? 9.2/10

September Ends - ehhh, 6.5/10

Homecoming - 9/10

Whatsername - I like this one personally, 8.5/10

 

I mean upon relisten, this album is really well put together, I forgot how massive it 'felt'. more so than any of their other albums where you pay attention to the ordering and everything.  I'm not against calling it a masterpiece.  The early songs aren't as good, but there's no filler.  It's definitely there most "polished", which I don't love these days but can appreciate it for what it is.

[thongrider]

AI: agree with Jan. 7/10

JOS: not the best long song 7.5/10

HD: no thanks 3/10

Blvd: Overplayed. Decent tune tho. 7.5/10

AWW: sorta meh 6/10

STJ: meh 6/10

GMN: love this one! 9/10

SAR: good song 8/10

EG: even vetter 9.5/10

LB: what a tune! 10/10

WMU: Overplayed. But best single 9/10

HC: 9.5/10

WHN: best one. 10/10

[Russel Coight]

Homecoming and letterbomb are my favourites too.

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I'm confused at Jerry Finn's involvement with Green Day.  Did he just help Rob Cavallo or was he the head on any albums more like he was with Blink?  Did they mix and match producers/mixing/engineering or something? 

[Knapppers]

Holiday will always hold a special place in my heart. God that song is so good and means so much to people here

[allsystemsgo]

Jesus of Suburbia and Homecoming are among the best songs they've ever made. Top 5. As a unit it's a great album and probably the one I come back to most, especially when I'm feeling particularly down.

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5 hours ago, allsystemsgo said:

Jesus of Suburbia and Homecoming are among the best songs they've ever made. Top 5. As a unit it's a great album and probably the one I come back to most, especially when I'm feeling particularly down.

Because they’re 9 minutes? I like them too, but sometimes I prefer my pop punk songs not to be 9 minutes long this ain’t Iron Maiden.

[Scott.]

Boring long winded shite

[allsystemsgo]

1 hour ago, Elite Takes - this is jan said:

Because they’re 9 minutes? I like them too, but sometimes I prefer my pop punk songs not to be 9 minutes long this ain’t Iron Maiden.

I like their longer songs. Forever Now is great, as is their cover of A Quick One While He's Away.

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1 hour ago, allsystemsgo said:

I like their longer songs. Forever Now is great, as is their cover of A Quick One While He's Away.

Eww they have other longer songs not on AI?

god damn they jumped shark