Fahrenheit-182: A Memoir By Mark Hoppus (April 8, 2025)

[Sun God]

3 minutes ago, OliverIsTheNewDylan said:

Green Day still sucks. I like my bands like I like my vice presidents; without eyeliner 

lol I’ll agree on the eyeliner thing. 

Well played, Bob. 

[boxelder]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/03/arts/music/mark-hoppus-blink-182-fahrenheit-182-memoir.html

neat article 

[_Kyle_]

so what was up with (+44) losing money by touring. is that when they toured with Fall Out Boy and had to pay for that?

[boxelder]

Mark did didn’t delve into specifics in the book. But I would have to imagine that after years of touring in buses and in relative luxury they probably weren’t willing to part with that lifestyle which could’ve driven up costs. Travis bailing midway through the 07 Euro tour meant they had to pay a fill-in. Smaller guarantees having to open for people eats into that. And as the industry cratered in the late 00s I know that labels were giving less tour support. They talked about that some during the Neighborhoods press cycle, how Interscope barely knew what to do with the album, and that was the same label that released +44.

I wonder if at the end of the day that’s also what drove the initial Blink reunion too — I’m sure Tom wasn’t stoked about being relegated to Warped tour status in middle age

 

[_Bagel]

1 hour ago, boxelder said:

Mark did didn’t delve into specifics in the book. But I would have to imagine that after years of touring in buses and in relative luxury they probably weren’t willing to part with that lifestyle which could’ve driven up costs. Travis bailing midway through the 07 Euro tour meant they had to pay a fill-in. Smaller guarantees having to open for people eats into that. And as the industry cratered in the late 00s I know that labels were giving less tour support. They talked about that some during the Neighborhoods press cycle, how Interscope barely knew what to do with the album, and that was the same label that released +44.

I wonder if at the end of the day that’s also what drove the initial Blink reunion too — I’m sure Tom wasn’t stoked about being relegated to Warped tour status in middle age

 

How's the book, man? Proper minutiae of their relationship type shit? Need to get it ordered.

[Sun God]

1 hour ago, boxelder said:

Mark did didn’t delve into specifics in the book. But I would have to imagine that after years of touring in buses and in relative luxury they probably weren’t willing to part with that lifestyle which could’ve driven up costs. Travis bailing midway through the 07 Euro tour meant they had to pay a fill-in. Smaller guarantees having to open for people eats into that. And as the industry cratered in the late 00s I know that labels were giving less tour support. They talked about that some during the Neighborhoods press cycle, how Interscope barely knew what to do with the album, and that was the same label that released +44.

I wonder if at the end of the day that’s also what drove the initial Blink reunion too — I’m sure Tom wasn’t stoked about being relegated to Warped tour status in middle age

 

Why did Travis bail on that tour? Who filled in on drums? I forgot about any of this 

[_Kyle_]

1 hour ago, boxelder said:

Mark did didn’t delve into specifics in the book. But I would have to imagine that after years of touring in buses and in relative luxury they probably weren’t willing to part with that lifestyle which could’ve driven up costs. Travis bailing midway through the 07 Euro tour meant they had to pay a fill-in. Smaller guarantees having to open for people eats into that. And as the industry cratered in the late 00s I know that labels were giving less tour support. They talked about that some during the Neighborhoods press cycle, how Interscope barely knew what to do with the album, and that was the same label that released +44.

I wonder if at the end of the day that’s also what drove the initial Blink reunion too — I’m sure Tom wasn’t stoked about being relegated to Warped tour status in middle age

 

Yeah, I wonder. I never got to see (+44) but I did go to a signing in 2007 for the honda civic tour. Did they tour beyond that summer? Thee was like a year long tour schedule when they were launching themselves. 

I also wonder if whoever was watching the tour books just did a piss-poor job at it. They could have toured mid-level and done alright I'd imagine. Hell, they had at least 300 kids at the signing I went to and they had to buy the album to meet them. 

If you can't tour mid-level and lose money, then I think you're doing something very wrong. Even in 2007, the live music scene was still a big thing. 

[boxelder]

21 minutes ago, _Bagel said:

How's the book, man? Proper minutiae of their relationship type shit? Need to get it ordered.

It’s great! I’d recommend it. If you live in the US most Barnes & Noble‘s have put the book out early and it’s not street dated for whatever reason.

12 minutes ago, Ballz 2 tha Walz said:

Why did Travis bail on that tour? Who filled in on drums? I forgot about any of this 

As I recall in his book, Travis says that he risked permanent nerve damage in his hand that he broke while filming the WYHSB music video. That and he was entirely distracted with tons of drugs and was suicidal in the wake of his split with Shanna

[boxelder]

2 minutes ago, _Kyle_ said:

Yeah, I wonder. I never got to see (+44) but I did go to a signing in 2007 for the honda civic tour. Did they tour beyond that summer? Thee was like a year long tour schedule when they were launching themselves. 

I also wonder if whoever was watching the tour books just did a piss-poor job at it. They could have toured mid-level and done alright I'd imagine. Hell, they had at least 300 kids at the signing I went to and they had to buy the album to meet them. 

If you can't tour mid-level and lose money, then I think you're doing something very wrong. Even in 2007, the live music scene was still a big thing. 

Right. It had to have been that they were hemorrhaging money somewhere like luxury transport and shit. Even some of the venues they were playing as I recall were pretty small like SOMA. I wonder if the rooms were just half full or something 

[_Kyle_]

7 minutes ago, boxelder said:

Right. It had to have been that they were hemorrhaging money somewhere like luxury transport and shit. Even some of the venues they were playing as I recall were pretty small like SOMA. I wonder if the rooms were just half full or something 

... was that the side-stage? I think 1-2 thousand seaters are still pretty good. they played the 9:30 club and the Metro. 

I assume this was a clusterfuck in execution but I always got the vibe those shows were maybe not selling out but did well. I'm really siding with them not downsizing their travel for these tours (it seemed they barely toured anyway when it was all said and done). I know the Taking Back Sundays, AFIs, and Rise Against bands weren't doing bigger shows, but maybe had better merch? I have a feeling the entourage was something else. 

[Elisa]

2 hours ago, _Kyle_ said:

I'm really siding with them not downsizing their travel for these tours (it seemed they barely toured anyway when it was all said and done). I know the Taking Back Sundays, AFIs, and Rise Against bands weren't doing bigger shows, but maybe had better merch? I have a feeling the entourage was something else. 

Yeah, I think they didn't downsize their travel and the money they made was okay, but it was nothing compared to what they were used to. If you go from Mark's luxurious lifestyle to Taking Back Sunday's lifestyle is a total loss in theory,  
but bands on the level of TBS would rake in a lot of money PER NIGHT in merch sales alone in the 2000s. At least in the US and the UK.
Then of course they had a full crew of people they employed to take care of, but I think they made good money back then.
TBS, AFI, even Brand New etc. certainly appeared to have a more straightforward path to generating income consistently than bands of the past decade because they were scoped by Capitol, Island, and Atlantic, they were the product of huge budgets for everything from A&R to recording. 
I can't believe +44 weren't doing as well as TBS with Interscope. 
When they came to my country they played a 4k venue. In the UK it was the classical venues where you'd see TBS or Alkaline Trio.

[dave900]

Is anyone going to the book tour ? I'm trying to find some reviews of the first show to see if it's worth going to.

[JarJarBlinks]

2 hours ago, dave900 said:

Is anyone going to the book tour ? I'm trying to find some reviews of the first show to see if it's worth going to.

would Mark want you to go? honest question

[Sun God]

3 hours ago, dave900 said:

Is anyone going to the book tour ? I'm trying to find some reviews of the first show to see if it's worth going to.

If you go make sure you throw up a sig heil and tell Mark how much you love Elon and Tesla. 

[dave900]

51 minutes ago, JarJarBlinks said:

would Mark want you to go? honest question

Doesn't Mark drive a Tesla ?? I'm sure he wouldn't mind a long term fan attending the event.

[dave900]

27 minutes ago, Chris Jones said:

If you go make sure you throw up a sig heil and tell Mark how much you love Elon and Tesla. 

Mark drives a Tesla! He probably wouldn't care !

[Sun God]

6 minutes ago, dave900 said:

Mark drives a Tesla! He probably wouldn't care !

I doubt he drives a Tesla now 

[boxelder]

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2025-04-07/blink-182-mark-hoppus-surviving-cancer-book-fahrenheit-182-band-reuniting

Another cool piece

[Sun God]

32 minutes ago, boxelder said:

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2025-04-07/blink-182-mark-hoppus-surviving-cancer-book-fahrenheit-182-band-reuniting

Another cool piece

I just started reading the book last night and got through the first few chapters. Haven’t gotten into the music stuff yet. Cool to see this article mention he shouts out Social D tho!

[Elisa]

I won’t get this book until the 16th, I just cant wait to read it