twentytwenty 1370 Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Kay said: Yeah I think this narrative of "It was Jens fault Tom didn't do music! not the whole entire business and media empire he tried to build and all the aliens he was chasing" is stupid, like it obviously wasn't Jen's doing. He's a musician first and foremost, he's probably just having a blast at the moment with AVA, and I don't think he thought he would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 11815 Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 I couldn't sleep last night and I was watching recent Tom interviews and I thought man, I haven't actually tried WDNTW in years, now that I like current AVA Maybe I should try it? I got halfway through valkyrie missile and gave it. It's so boring and Tom sounds so bad, I still don't get it. Spun Dream Walker though for the first time in ages, still holds up well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nosferatu 1878 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 On 12/25/2019 at 5:20 PM, Kay said: I couldn't sleep last night and I was watching recent Tom interviews and I thought man, I haven't actually tried WDNTW in years, now that I like current AVA Maybe I should try it? I got halfway through valkyrie missile and gave it. It's so boring and Tom sounds so bad, I still don't get it. Spun Dream Walker though for the first time in ages, still holds up well. I think WDNTW is full of amazing ideas but nearly all the songs fall short. The first minute of Valkyrie Missile just isn't needed but as soon as the delayed guitar riff comes in, my God. I fucking love that part. The verses come in and they sound nice but their too long. By the time the chorus comes in, I'm kinda bored from the repetitive verses. But I do like the chorus. That's the problem I find with most AVA stuff. Some of the songs are too long or too repetitive. The Adventure is another that turns to shit after the second chorus. The War sounds amazing but it's so fucking repetitive. It Hurts sounds like it could've been a bigger song but the song is a bit too monotonous and boring after the second chorus. Do It For Me Now has amazing lyrics but like the majority of the songs, it's just too long and repetitive. A Little's Enough is interesting and fresh although I'm not a fan of the bridge. I think Start the Machine is the only song that actually is actually perfect in every way. The Dream Walker is a damn good album. It's not perfect. It has some dodgy lyrics at times. But it's funny how the most WDNTW/I-Empire sounding song Tremors is also the worst song for me. Tunnels is another that sounds kinda like older AVA, but the song is just interesting all the way through. I just hate long ass repetitive songs and it's why I struggle to get into a lot of AVA stuff, but at the same time I also like a lot of AVA stuff. And it's mainly because every song does have some damn good ideas in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 11815 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, Nosferatu said: I think WDNTW is full of amazing ideas but nearly all the songs fall short. The first minute of Valkyrie Missile just isn't needed but as soon as the delayed guitar riff comes in, my God. I fucking love that part. The verses come in and they sound nice but their too long. By the time the chorus comes in, I'm kinda bored from the repetitive verses. But I do like the chorus. That's the problem I find with most AVA stuff. Some of the songs are too long or too repetitive. The Adventure is another that turns to shit after the second chorus. The War sounds amazing but it's so fucking repetitive. It Hurts sounds like it could've been a bigger song but the song is a bit too monotonous and boring after the second chorus. Do It For Me Now has amazing lyrics but like the majority of the songs, it's just too long and repetitive. A Little's Enough is interesting and fresh although I'm not a fan of the bridge. I think Start the Machine is the only song that actually is actually perfect in every way. The Dream Walker is a damn good album. It's not perfect. It has some dodgy lyrics at times. But it's funny how the most WDNTW/I-Empire sounding song Tremors is also the worst song for me. Tunnels is another that sounds kinda like older AVA, but the song is just interesting all the way through. I just hate long ass repetitive songs and it's why I struggle to get into a lot of AVA stuff, but at the same time I also like a lot of AVA stuff. And it's mainly because every song does have some damn good ideas in it. See I actually really like the intro to Valkyrie Missile and I don't mind the long intros but they always just sort've...go nowhere. I'd like the build up if they made sense you know? When the actual verse kicks in on that one then im like "okay now im bored" its just pointless. I like a lot of the record musically but the actual composition of the song, the lyrics and Toms voice combine to make a bit of a shit time. I loved Dream Walker but it is riddled with issues but I feel there's more positives to outway the negatives. I agree with you that Tremors is the worst on that record funnily enough lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 11815 Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 This won't be properly discussed in the Tom thread in the blink section, so 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ye. 535 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Hyped for the doc and I'm into the music. I've watched Start the Machine numerous times, so I think this one will be cool. I feel like Tom's been more transparent lately in general, so I wonder if he partially wanted to do this as a PR move. Make him look a little cooler again after years of being a non-musician doing things most of us don't care about haha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sean. 37 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Was sitting at one of my local watering holes having a beer with my buddy and out of nowhere they played the acoustic version of Valkyrie Missile. Pretty great for a random bar playlist! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marik 249 Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 I believe most on here prefer Love 1 over Love2, but count me in the minority that would take Love 2. Love1 does have some great moments, so its not that i dislike it at all. But just complete album vs complete album, i would always take Love2. I guess im just not 'tired of the same ideas running thin' that ive heard is the general consenus of Love2. With these next string of shows coming up, im more looking forward to hearing Dry Your Eyes than Clever Love (assuming both still get played). I do love Hallucinations, but i feel Anxiety is so close to it (quality-wise), that they are basically equal as #1 singles. I also really like both Moon songs, so they basically equal each other for me. Revelator and Interia are both as good for me as Letters and Behold. Ive always liked All That We Are more than Origins of Fire as a closer. Always liked Saturday Love more than Flight of Apollo. And where Love2 really pulls away for me is A) the strength of Surrender (which I view as a Top5 AVA song based on its live performance and crowd participation and sing-along), i like miles ahead of something like Young London or a fellow single like Epic Holiday. And b) One Last Thing being such a high standout for me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twentytwenty 1370 Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Marik said: I believe most on here prefer Love 1 over Love2, but count me in the minority that would take Love 2. Love1 does have some great moments, so its not that i dislike it at all. But just complete album vs complete album, i would always take Love2. I guess im just not 'tired of the same ideas running thin' that ive heard is the general consenus of Love2. With these next string of shows coming up, im more looking forward to hearing Dry Your Eyes than Clever Love (assuming both still get played). I do love Hallucinations, but i feel Anxiety is so close to it (quality-wise), that they are basically equal as #1 singles. I also really like both Moon songs, so they basically equal each other for me. Revelator and Interia are both as good for me as Letters and Behold. Ive always liked All That We Are more than Origins of Fire as a closer. Always liked Saturday Love more than Flight of Apollo. And where Love2 really pulls away for me is A) the strength of Surrender (which I view as a Top5 AVA song based on its live performance and crowd participation and sing-along), i like miles ahead of something like Young London or a fellow single like Epic Holiday. And b) One Last Thing being such a high standout for me. Yeah I'm with you on this one! Anxiety isn't just close quality wise to Hallucinations, it beats it imo. As much as I love Love 1, when Love 2 was released I was euphoric, I honestly though it was their best work. These days I like both albums, but part two is the better half 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Speedo 13329 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 I listened to Kiss & Tell and Rebel Girl a lot today. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Two Bags 1623 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, Speedo said: I listened to Kiss & Tell and Rebel Girl a lot today. Fake news 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Speedo 13329 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Diddy Faplord said: Fake news Nope! Love those songs! Only shit I've really liked from AvA since We Don't Need To Whisper. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Two Bags 1623 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Speedo said: Nope! Love those songs! Only shit I've really liked from AvA since We Don't Need To Whisper. Same. Although I haven’t checked out much because it usually turns me off by being boring and lame. Secret Crowds was a good one and so was tremors tho. Outside of those and WDNTW, AvA just doesn’t do it for me 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WolfUgly 41 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 5/28/2019 at 11:15 PM, Just Jan_ said: I can't get over Rebel Girl. How is everyone on here not raving over it? It has all the classic Tom elements. Some silly but catchy 80s influence, nicely toned guitar riffs, moving chorus melody, nice little breakdown and finale. I'm in love with their new music!!! It sounds great on vinyl as well, I bought a few of the 7'' when they were on sale! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ry-Bread 5922 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 I’m ready for Time Bomb to drop, blaring Kiss & Tell right now, such a banger...still can’t believe they’ve dropped it off the setlist. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WolfUgly 41 Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 10/5/2019 at 11:55 AM, Dylan_ said: Rebel Girl live is fucking great! The crowd was was loving it at both shows I went to. Got some great videos from the shows but I need to figure how to upload them. They were fabulous weren’t they?!!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knapppers 3300 Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 Kiss and Tell is still so fucking good 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marik 249 Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Did Love1 anniversary today Feb 12 or Feb 14? I always thought 14th - as wikipedia states. But a bunch of the social posts are referring to it today 12th? Can anyone recall? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WolfUgly 41 Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Marik said: Did Love1 anniversary today Feb 12 or Feb 14? I always thought 14th - as wikipedia states. But a bunch of the social posts are referring to it today 12th? Can anyone recall? I assure you with confidence it was the 12th!!!! i'm celebrating all day with my love shirt and sour patch kids! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stgrunu 34 Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Never been a big fan of AVA but I'm listening to Love Pt. 1 and it's way better than I imagined. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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