Ghost Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 28 minutes ago, Champ182 said: Yeah I mean obviously we're on the outside looking in but I think he's definitely got some mental issues beyond just being the little kid in the movie Blank Check. His entire personality changed DRASTICALLY since 2004, much moreso than what would be considered maturing or aging. There have been tons of rock stars over the years who stayed immature well into middle age and even more who were irresponsible with money, but there's a reason why Tom's bullshit becomes news, he's WAY outside the norm. Yes, his behavior got radically different in a short period of time. And if that's the way we all could see it, can we guess what was going on behind the curtain? It's pretty well known that people who experiences panick attacks, anxiety probems or nervous breakdowns can experience this kind of changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come Back Artists Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Ghent said: Probably something you could buy off ebay lol eBay? That's generous, reminds me more of when I used to print off fake covers from google images for my games and CDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come Back Artists Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, Ghost said: Yes, his behavior got radically different in a short period of time. And if that's the way we all could see it, can we guess what was going on behind the curtain? It was clearly the pain killer addiction or blink was Illuminati and Tom tried to get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 I definitely think Tom is honest with his music stuff. Whether it'll be released this year or next, no clue. But it'll most likely be next year. If he has studio pictures with the Rubin guys there, and has clips, usually it means he's getting it done. It's when he's just posting videos of him playing acoustic guitar then it's probably bullshit. Took 2 years to get Wishing Well to come out after all. But past 2 months definitely prove he's progressing with the AVA album. As for his movies, comic books and shit though. Well that's a whole other matter. We won't get any of that shit for another 5-10 years. Possibly more. He'll have EP or two out by then. Probably another album too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ye. Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 I still contend that (i could be wrong) that Tom isn't as crazy as he is just stubborn and convinced by his own ego. If he was doing this stuff on the side while playing in Blink right now or even full time AvA, nobody would bat an eye. But instead, people keep telling him to go back to Blink (something he's quit twice and made very clear he just doesn't want to do) and telling him his dreams are stupid. Regardless of whether they are or not, he seems to have good intentions. Sometimes he seems like a scammer, other times I think he's more just stupid. It's like his comments in Start the Machine about "I want to change how music is sold" etc. He just genuinely thinks he's a genius who's coming up with radical ideas because he succeeded once in his life (Blink) by being himself and believing he could do it. Throw in some pills for back pain and baby, you've got a stew going. or he's entirely nuts. hard to tell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxelder Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 tom’ll totally be back in blink. probably in the next few years. the bad blood isn’t too bad and he’ll need the $$$. mark and trav will appreciate the publicity. it only makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ182 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, boxelder said: tom’ll totally be back in blink. probably in the next few years. the bad blood isn’t too bad and he’ll need the $$$. mark and trav will appreciate the publicity. it only makes sense If that happens the Cali Era will seem even more bizarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzz Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Trav/Mark are doing just fine though, and I don't think they'll care too much about Tom's financial troubles that he caused himself. The only way I honestly see Tom coming back is if something would happen to Skiba (either tragic or he just gets sick of the spotlight and bails). At which point we'd have an awkward 2-3 year span of nothing, and then *maybe* a "Hey we can cash in on an Untitled 20 reunion tour and retire" comeback with Tom. It's a legal divorce. If you divorced your ex of 20 years, did everything to get her out of your life, were happily remarried and doing great...Would you give a shit if your ex came calling saying that she needed money because of stupid decisions she made that led to your divorce? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Only way Tom comes back anytime soon is if Skiba quits or if they allow Tom to join them as a foursome. Mark, Tom, Travis, and Matt with a producer would end up being amazing. Tom still has good little riffs and progressions, he just needs someone to tell him to fuck off when he starts experimenting beyond that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ182 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ghent said: Only way Tom comes back anytime soon is if Skiba quits or if they allow Tom to join them as a foursome. Mark, Tom, Travis, and Matt with a producer would end up being amazing. Tom still has good little riffs and progressions, he just needs someone to tell him to fuck off when he starts experimenting beyond that. I'd be veryyy intrigued by that! I've realized over the past 3 years that Skiba just doesn't do much for me, whether it's in Blink or 75% of the Alkaline Trio catalog, but having him as a rhythm guitarist/background vocalist in a 4-piece Blink could be pretty fucking cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Skiba does a better job than Tom had been doing, but neither can really hold down lead guitar and vocals on a lot of these songs anymore. No shame in lightening the load. And the vocals could be really cool with Mark in the low range, Tom high, and Skiba with some screams/yells on new songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come Back Artists Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 What has Tom finished or followed through with in the past 3 years? One presentation of paid ""ex government officials""" about building a space craft. Granted that was funny and surprising it actually happened, literally everything else is just teasing to a disturbing extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghent Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 All he needs to do is churn out 5-10 good riffs every 3 years and a summer on the road. Even his washed up, mentally ill ass should be able to excel at this for several million dollars. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Skiba is good at keeping his word and can balance his projects. I know Trio didn't release an album for ages but at least he wasn't stringing the band and their fans along like Tom was. But based on the past 5 years, I still think Tom is the way better songwriter. Skiba definitely has had a couple of great songs though. Big fan of Way Bakk When from the Sekrets. Lyrically Skiba & Mark blast Tom out the water though. California has some cringe lyrics but on the more mature songs, they prove they're still great at writing them kinda lyrics. I still feel Tom is just way better with riffs and progressions like Ghent stated. I feel like blink need to experiment though so I'm on board with them doing all that synthy new wave stuff. Just don't want them going overboard with it like majority of AVA has. When it comes to live stuff, Tom definitely has more presence. Definitely more entertaining. Way better guitarist too and he actually improvises. Tom's problem is his guitar tone. Sometimes it's the shitty mixing which is out of blink's hands. But his guitar tone was also fucking trash. Some songs it was fine, like I Miss You & After Midnight. Tom's sound is fine for clean sounding guitars. Skiba is the better singer though. Way better, although he needs to stop yelling. Saying that though, I like the fact that Tom was trash at singing anyway. It wouldn't be blink if they weren't trash. Skiba's guitar tone is downright horrid as well IMO. Can barely hear the damn guitar when it's on the more faster & louder songs. His clean tone is even worse. Sounds so thin. Also like strumming a piece of metal instead of guitar strings. Sometimes sounds like the suspense music from the fucking Terminator movies. Availability is the most important factor though. Always. Skiba offers that and Tom doesn't. Tom is also one of the most unreliable fuckers in the music industry. Hard working dude for sure but he focuses on like 10 projects at once. He's not balanced enough whereas Skiba is. But if Tom all of a sudden became available, I'd just see no point in Skiba. He's not involved enough as it is and he certainly won't be if Tom is back. He'd be like that extra guitarist from Green Day but with some singing now and then. Tom won't ever work with Feldman either. Like Whales said, I think Tom is nuts. He always has been. But I don't think he needs help like counselling or whatever. He knows what he's doing. Just he's a bit dumb and stupid. Naive too. Tom has the biggest ego of every blink member. Probably the biggest ego from the whole pop punk/punk rock scene. Very stubborn too. But he's always been a guy who follows his passions. Just he goes about it the wrong way. I think midlife crisis probably had something to do with him following his more crazy passions from the past 10 years too. He always did believe in the alien & time machine crap anyway even as far back as 1999. He should just be honest to the band and the fans. Just like he used to be with BCR. He wasn't bullshit back then. He also wasn't bullshit back in the early days of AVA either IMO. But he was an asshole about blink's situation in 2005. He started doing all the misleading and unreliable shit when blink got back together. He never used to be that way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_ Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 I 100% believe Tom will be back with blink within the next 3-4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knapppers Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 I really dont see Tom coming back. As much of a pussy as mark is, i dont think hed have it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeling_This_1 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Tom is such a total idiot. He'd have more money (and still have a spouse) if he just stuck with blink the whole time. Even Ava + blink would suffice! Now this cringey Academy for Arts and Science! Wtf!!! Can you imagine some Ava fan applying to attend this academy and buying 10k of fake stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loudernow Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 51 minutes ago, knapton said: I really dont see Tom coming back. As much of a pussy as mark is, i dont think hed have it Me neither. Just don’t see it happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invaluable Nonbinosaur Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 I also don't see it, but I did say that last time so who knows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheerios4u98 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 I can totally see Tom coming back to blink at some point. I don't think it will be soon, but I think it will happen. I also don't think Tom is as crazy as you guys think. Yeah he gets very excited and passionate about silly things, and he doesn't really follow through with most things, but that doesn't mean he's crazy or mentally unwell. He might not be the smartest, but I don't think he's an idiot. I honestly think he probably just has extreme ADHD, and can't focus on one thing long enough to finish it. With that being the case, it's actually impressive what he has accomplished and released over the last decade. Not that it's been great stuff that appeals to me, but he's put out multiple albums, made a fucking movie (I thought it was extremely boring, but still), has released novels and comics and short films, and has gotten to live his dream of studying UFOs. He might not be doing what I want him to be doing, or putting out the content that I want to see, but I think what he's done is fairly impressive regardless, even if it doesn't appeal to me. I'm still pissed off about a lot of things he's done. I'm mad that he didn't record that 2015 blink album that he was contractually obligated to work on. I'm annoyed that he wouldn't record neighborhoods in the same room as Travis and Mark. He has promised a million things that never happened. But, eh. Maybe I've just detached myself a bit from blink-182 in the past couple of years, so it's easier for me to not hold a grudge or really care much about that stuff anymore. Yeah, it sucked, but whatever. I'd still love to spend a day with Tom, just hang out, talk about aliens, talk about music, make stupid jokes, etc... He was one of my heroes growing up, and he still kind of is. Turns out I'm a Tombot! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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