Chewy030 3027 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Just now, NotNow said: Also mark said Matt doesn’t even have a computer which is why he isn’t really involved. He has zero set up at his home to do anything and they’ve recorded this ep entirely from home. Mark hasn’t seen Travis in person since March You would think Matt would want to be involved. I know he's gone to Feldmans at least once. But damn why wouldn't you just get a simple set up to continue to write. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lindemulder 106 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Its just not the way Skiba rolls. On that DeMakes podcast he was on, he said he simply does a very raw recording in the memos-app on his phone of his ideas with him and his guitar and then brings it to the band, (AK3) because he doesnt want to interfere with the others take on the song and already determine how the drums fx should sound like. Pretty humble mindset in my opinion. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 11160 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Russel Coight said: Yeah my question was more directed at the fact people aren’t bothered by songs not including Tom before but now when a song doesn’t include Matt it’s suddenly a big issue. But as speedo said it most likely just stems from there being another name in the credits who isn’t in the band which is a fair enough answer to me. People were bothered at the time though, it was discussed by blink fans quite a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nosferatu 1805 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Diddy Faplord said: How would a song be any better if Tom played the same thing as Mark did? It would be the same lol The same but the guitar tones and the playing styles would sound different. Even though they could play the exact same thing, you'd be able to tell if it was Tom or Mark playing on the tracks I think. Even before Mark mentioning what songs he played guitar on, it was obvious that Mark played on them tracks. The chorus of Natives is just power chords yet you can tell it's Tom playing those power chords whereas the songs like MH, Kaleidoscope, Heart's All Gone and Fighting the Gravity sounds like Mark playing power chords. I don't think it would make the songs better but maybe it'd make Neighborhoods sound more cohesive. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diddy Faplord 1299 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, Nosferatu said: The same but the guitar tones and the playing styles would sound different. Even though they could play the exact same thing, you'd be able to tell if it was Tom or Mark playing on the tracks I think. Even before Mark mentioning what songs he played guitar on, it was obvious that Mark played on them tracks. The chorus of Natives is just power chords yet you can tell it's Tom playing those power chords whereas the songs like MH, Kaleidoscope, Heart's All Gone and Fighting the Gravity sounds like Mark playing power chords. I don't think it would make the songs better but maybe it'd make Neighborhoods sound more cohesive. Come on guys. The guitar tones aren’t any different. Bet Mark used the same guitars Tom did , same recording techniques and all that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Champ182 4218 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Diddy Faplord said: Come on guys. The guitar tones aren’t any different. Bet Mark used the same guitars Tom did , same recording techniques and all that. They're definitely different, I could seriously tell right away that it didn't sound like Tom. Not trying to hype myself up because I couldn't tell you specifically WHAT is different haha, but I could absolutely hear that it wasn't Tom's sound. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diddy Faplord 1299 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Champ182 said: They're definitely different, I could seriously tell right away that it didn't sound like Tom. Not trying to hype myself up because I couldn't tell you specifically WHAT is different haha, but I could absolutely hear that it wasn't Tom's sound. I think the guitar tones sound the same all throughout but I guess I never listened with a fine tooth comb to that album like I have for other albums 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Depf 136 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, Diddy Faplord said: I think the guitar tones sound the same all throughout but I guess I never listened with a fine tooth comb to that album like I have for other albums Check the chorus for hearts all gone, specifically that change from F to E. Besides sounding awesome it really sounds very unlike what tom usually does with chords and very p90-ish. Thats at least the one example that comes to my mind. I guess in not now it's not too different but i cant think of too many times were tom would simply lower the bottom note of a chord and leave the fifth and octave be. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iguessthisisgrowingup 355 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 mcfly fucking sucks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 11160 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Diddy Faplord said: Come on guys. The guitar tones aren’t any different. Bet Mark used the same guitars Tom did , same recording techniques and all that. Listen to MH right now and tell me that's Toms tone. You're out of your mind if you think he used Toms gear. For a start they recorded most of the record in completely different studios away from each other so straight away the same gear is incredibly unlikely. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diddy Faplord 1299 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kay said: Listen to MH right now and tell me that's Toms tone. You're out of your mind if you think he used Toms gear. For a start they recorded most of the record in completely different studios away from each other so straight away the same gear is incredibly unlikely. I know that they were in separate studios but it still stands to reason they’d use similar if not the same gear. Even Travis has a signature TD guitar. (And yes I’m aware Tom didn’t really record with his signatures). But yea, I’m not saying you’re wrong. Just saying I never paid attention much to that record, so I’ll give it a listen This weekend to assess again. But I believe you lol don’t be so mad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JarJarBlinks 3515 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 It's Mark's weird down-picking. He plays bass weird but you can really tell on those Neighborhoods songs....I thought everyone knew he recorded the guitar on his songs? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxelder 4644 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 wasn’t there some sort of video of tom fucking up HAG live? back then i always assumed mark recorded guitar for his songs; it’s super obvious on MH 637373839. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Satan 12397 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, Diddy Faplord said: I know that they were in separate studios but it still stands to reason they’d use similar if not the same gear. Even Travis has a signature TD guitar. (And yes I’m aware Tom didn’t really record with his signatures). But yea, I’m not saying you’re wrong. Just saying I never paid attention much to that record, so I’ll give it a listen This weekend to assess again. But I believe you lol don’t be so mad Mark tends to bump low ends and muddy the guitar way more than Tom and keeps a pretty 4/4 strumming pattern, where as Tom likes to hit open strings between chord transitions. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Depf 136 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Mark = Hogan. Basic and effective Tom = Sabu. Sloppy botch monkey but we appreciate the weird spots/chords 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Satan 12397 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Depf said: Mark = Hogan. Basic and effective Tom = Sabu. Sloppy botch monkey but we appreciate the weird spots/chords Iron Sheik would kick Sabus lilly-ass! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Depf 136 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Speedo said: Iron Sheik would kick Sabus lilly-ass! Matt so excited he put you in camel clutch, make you humble! jabroni, pff! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Satan 12397 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Just now, Depf said: Matt so excited he put you in camel clutch, make you humble! jabroni, pff! I'll fucking bite it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Depf 136 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Speedo said: I'll fucking bite it! Hmm...ancien français. Magnifique! Edited September 4, 2020 by Depf typo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nosferatu 1805 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Diddy Faplord said: Come on guys. The guitar tones aren’t any different. Bet Mark used the same guitars Tom did , same recording techniques and all that. Yeah, it's what Champ and Kay have been saying. I could tell those 4 songs specifically were Mark playing the guitar and on the rest of the album it's Tom. It'd be hard to tell if they would've used the same recording techniques since they weren't really together when recording the album but even if they used the same guitar tones and stuff, the playing style would still be different. Mark plays the guitar like a bassist would play the guitar. The guitar style is the same exact guitar style as the In Transit song he did. I reckon the bass guitars for BCR would sound mad different even if Mark played the exact same notes and lines as what Tom played for that album. Different people playing guitars but the same lines, notes, riffs etc does make a difference even if using the same exact guitar and tones. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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