The blink 182 general discussion topic

[Nosferatu 1781]

3 hours ago, Diddy Faplord said:

Come on guys. The guitar tones aren’t any different. Bet Mark used the same guitars Tom did , same recording techniques and all that.

Yeah, it's what Champ and Kay have been saying. I could tell those 4 songs specifically were Mark playing the guitar and on the rest of the album it's Tom. It'd be hard to tell if they would've used the same recording techniques since they weren't really together when recording the album but even if they used the same guitar tones and stuff, the playing style would still be different. Mark plays the guitar like a bassist would play the guitar. The guitar style is the same exact guitar style as the In Transit song he did.

I reckon the bass guitars for BCR would sound mad different even if Mark played the exact same notes and lines as what Tom played for that album. Different people playing guitars but the same lines, notes, riffs etc does make a difference even if using the same exact guitar and tones.

[Ry-Bread 5682]

3 hours ago, JarJarBlinks said:

I thought everyone knew he recorded the guitar on his songs?

Yeah we’ve known this forever, it’s incredibly obvious just by listening to the songs.

[Feeling_This_1 454]

I never heard that Tom didn't do guitar on Kaleidoscope, that's pretty cool since it's my favorite song on the CD. I never picked up on anything in that song to make me think of that. 

[NotNow 2686]

7 hours ago, JarJarBlinks said:

It's Mark's weird down-picking.  He plays bass weird but you can really tell on those Neighborhoods songs....I thought everyone knew he recorded the guitar on his songs?

We did know that, any blink fan with half an ear knew that the first time listening to the songs. They’ve said that mark did guitars for a couple songs. But they’ve never said specifically which songs Mark did songs on. Fighting the gravity, MH, and hearts all gone are all obvious.

Kaleidoscope and natives are the two that people were never sure one way or the other. But according to mark, kaleidoscope is mark and natives is Tom.

I think everyone assumed the natives riff was Tom, but no one knew about the rest of the song.

[thongrider 2896]

Isn't there a flangered guitar in "Heart's All Gone"? Always imagined that was Tom.

 

I actually think it's kind of cool Mark played some guitar on that album.

[_Bagel 407]

Relistening to Neighborhoods with some proper headphones, shit - it gets better as time goes on. It's forward-thinking, it's a great (in places) alternative rock album ( I guess that's where it fits).

There are some disjointed duds that kill the pacing and hinder the quality of the album. In spite of that, Ghost, Hearts All Gone, Natives, Kaleidoscope , Wishing Well and Even If She Falls are all fantastic songs. They're mature, have things lingering sadnes/wistfullness that kind of seeps through every bit of the album. It's a perfect album to listen to in a city at night, which I guess fits with the aestehtic and part of their concept of the title.

It fucking kills me that Tom didn't listen to the masters of the album and that he fucked up the way they recorded, which he later admitted caused disunity. It also kills me how he can shit out a song like Wishing Well ( he wrote it on the notes of his phone at a kids b day party or something, whilst Interscope were pressing for them to wrap the album up).

The whole thing really is reflective of the state of the band and their personal lives/relationships at that point. Miscommunication, frustration, regret, reflection entwined with moments of brilliance and chemistry. 

 

 

 

 

[thongrider 2896]

1 hour ago, _Bagel said:

Relistening to Neighborhoods with some proper headphones, shit - it gets better as time goes on. It's forward-thinking, it's a great (in places) alternative rock album ( I guess that's where it fits).

There are some disjointed duds that kill the pacing and hinder the quality of the album. In spite of that, Ghost, Hearts All Gone, Natives, Kaleidoscope , Wishing Well and Even If She Falls are all fantastic songs. They're mature, have things lingering sadnes/wistfullness that kind of seeps through every bit of the album. It's a perfect album to listen to in a city at night, which I guess fits with the aestehtic and part of their concept of the title.

It fucking kills me that Tom didn't listen to the masters of the album and that he fucked up the way they recorded, which he later admitted caused disunity. It also kills me how he can shit out a song like Wishing Well ( he wrote it on the notes of his phone at a kids b day party or something, whilst Interscope were pressing for them to wrap the album up).

The whole thing really is reflective of the state of the band and their personal lives/relationships at that point. Miscommunication, frustration, regret, reflection entwined with moments of brilliance and chemistry. 

 

 

 

 

The most annoying part is the deluxe edition versus actual album thing. 

[_Bagel 407]

33 minutes ago, thongrider said:

The most annoying part is the deluxe edition versus actual album thing. 

Yeah - tbf I completely forgot about that - leaving off Even If She Falls and HAG interlude is criminal - then adding in Snake Charmer on the deluxe? Filling it with more duds man, strange

[NotNow 2686]

Snake charmer is sick. Such a good chorus.

[Feeling_This_1 454]

5 hours ago, thongrider said:

The most annoying part is the deluxe edition versus actual album thing. 

I want to know who at the record label wanted those specific songs removed. I can't wrap my head around the whole situation. I know the album kept getting delayed and maybe they were annoyed, so maybe those were the songs that got made later on?  If that's the case, good for the band because those songs improve the album

[Gaslit Jan 6602]

8 hours ago, _Bagel said:

Relistening to Neighborhoods with some proper headphones, shit - it gets better as time goes on. It's forward-thinking, it's a great (in places) alternative rock album ( I guess that's where it fits).

There are some disjointed duds that kill the pacing and hinder the quality of the album. In spite of that, Ghost, Hearts All Gone, Natives, Kaleidoscope , Wishing Well and Even If She Falls are all fantastic songs. They're mature, have things lingering sadnes/wistfullness that kind of seeps through every bit of the album. It's a perfect album to listen to in a city at night, which I guess fits with the aestehtic and part of their concept of the title.

It fucking kills me that Tom didn't listen to the masters of the album and that he fucked up the way they recorded, which he later admitted caused disunity. It also kills me how he can shit out a song like Wishing Well ( he wrote it on the notes of his phone at a kids b day party or something, whilst Interscope were pressing for them to wrap the album up).

The whole thing really is reflective of the state of the band and their personal lives/relationships at that point. Miscommunication, frustration, regret, reflection entwined with moments of brilliance and chemistry. 

 

 

 

 

[Kay 10879]

I consider Snake Charmer to be on the better ends of Neighborhoods tracks. Weird lyrics aside I like the creepiness of the verses, the bass is awesome, and the chorus is baller. 

[Tombomb 86]

I listened to Neighborhoods again yesterday too! (Although it probably was because of this discussion. Had to listen to Kaleidoscope, for instance...but Fighting the Gravity is like one of my most fave Blink songs now!)

I have already forgotten some of this (I'm still pretty new to the newer stuff), but while the first few songs are pretty great, I think it was Kaleidoscope, or around there, where I started losing some interest. Oh, actually, while I am not really a fan of the chorus of HAG, I think that is a sick track for the rest of it, And that interlude-was my first time hearing that and just loved that! I also never really liked MH 4182011 (was it?) And still don't. Sorry Mark! 

Wishing Well is great though, and Love is Dangerous. What am I missing? Oh EISF, yea that's not bad, but I prefer FTG. So, point for Mark!

And then, I guess YT thinks this is the final track on Neighborhoods. Well, lol I actually liked it, but if Blink was to perform this, they'd have to brush up on their screaming and growling. Hmm...maybe Matt...or Travis!!

 

 

[Tombomb 86]

On 9/4/2020 at 6:15 AM, Speedo said:

You try to be nice ...

Oh, I almost missed this. Hey, I'm sorry. I have trust issues, ok? Plus, I was just messing with you that you wanted a card from me and were just pretending you'd give it to Mark cuz you know you like me! Again, I'm just being silly.  

Even if you do have a way of sending something to Mark, I still don't think he wants to be reminded of this stuff right now, and again, I really lack confidence in my card making abilities. Nothing would be good enough, IMO. Sigh! 

[Hyland 67]

I recently saw Mark acknowledge the idea of blink working with Bill Stevenson in reference to someone asking on Twitch. 

I’m listening to Alk3’s My Shame Is True for the first time in years and hot damn would it be so rad to hear what Bill, Mark, Skiba and Travis could do together. Imagine 12 mature melodic goth pop punk songs, get Milo to feature on a track and you’ve got the coolest fucking album ever. Just wanted to share my stoned day dream with y’all :’)

[stupidtall_hotgirl 2]

On 9/4/2020 at 5:21 PM, Nosferatu said:

Yeah, it's what Champ and Kay have been saying. I could tell those 4 songs specifically were Mark playing the guitar and on the rest of the album it's Tom. It'd be hard to tell if they would've used the same recording techniques since they weren't really together when recording the album but even if they used the same guitar tones and stuff, the playing style would still be different. Mark plays the guitar like a bassist would play the guitar. The guitar style is the same exact guitar style as the In Transit song he did.

I reckon the bass guitars for BCR would sound mad different even if Mark played the exact same notes and lines as what Tom played for that album. Different people playing guitars but the same lines, notes, riffs etc does make a difference even if using the same exact guitar and tones.

Wise person told me that tone is in the fingers!

12 hours ago, Feeling_This_1 said:

I want to know who at the record label wanted those specific songs removed. I can't wrap my head around the whole situation. I know the album kept getting delayed and maybe they were annoyed, so maybe those were the songs that got made later on?  If that's the case, good for the band because those songs improve the album

There's no telling, it's worth mentioning that interscope was cleaning house at the time so God knows what was going on behind the scenes.

[Lindemulder 103]

I think the weakest part of Neighborhoods is the bridges. To me its clear that they know that strong and interesting bridges is a part of their signaturesound, so they really wanted to continue doing that. But it just sounds so uninspring

[Gaslit Jan 6602]

1 hour ago, Lindemulder said:

I think the weakest part of Neighborhoods is the bridges. To me its clear that they know that strong and interesting bridges is a part of their signaturesound, so they really wanted to continue doing that. But it just sounds so uninspring

I like the simplicity of it but I'm also pretty biased towards neighborhoods. In my head it was intentionally done that way to keep on theme with the album but I'm sure it was other reasons.

[Gaslit Jan 6602]

I don't get how people can love Snake Charmer but not Love is Dangerous and Fighting The Gravity

[Nosferatu 1781]

4 minutes ago, Jan's Plan said:

I don't get how people can love Snake Charmer but not Love is Dangerous and Fighting The Gravity

All 3 are great! The lyrics probably need to be a bit better for LID though and maybe the bridge but asides from that, it's a good song. Snake Charmer has a couple of dodgy lyrics but it's still a great song I think. I'll always love FTG.