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Alright, so here’s the final seeding. I’m listing the top 32 so people can get a sense of whether they want to do a 32-band bracket or just 16. Like for 32, crab for 16.* Sum 41 New Found Glory Descendents Ramones Screeching Weasel The Offspring NOFX Alkaline Trio Saves the Day Rancid My Chemical Romance Motion City Soundtrack Taking Back Sunday Yellowcard Lagwagon MxPx Fall Out Boy All Time Low The Story So Far Say Anything The Queers Sugarcult Paramor

- Descendents - Ramones - SW - Lifetime - Riverdales - Queers - Saves the day - Teenage Bottlerocket - Jawbreaker - feel free to toss in either Taking Back Sunday or Brand New since they were all inspired by Lifetime/early Saves The Day and other 90s pop punk/emo bands that were playing in 3/4 and I love that sound. Fall Out Boy were also inspired by that type of pop punk, but I'm a FOB hater.

NFG Alkaline Trio MxPx Screeching Weasel NOFX Saves the Day Lifetime Lagwagon Descendents Rancid Some of these are questionably not pop punk IMO (Rancid, Fat Mike considers NOFX a melodic hardcore band) but it's tough when blink and green day are out lol.

Use this thread to complain about the tournament and continue arguments from individual battle threads after they get locked. Full list of bands in case you don't want to zoom in on the above image...

Dear You is the most accessible, Nasa. The bridge of Accident Prone is giving me all the feelings right now. That song will make you cry and call Bagel's ex ballerina and apologise to her for something he didn't even do.

@Elisa@Yang Gang was Punk Rock Okay...I'm backing this. Gives me an American Pie vibe, they're playing a house party...I can get onboard with this. Saves The fucken Day it is!

I think this is a good occasion to check out the album Through Being Cool

A vote for Alkaline Trio means you love blink-182 with Feldmann and Skiba

this may be worse than the whole "lizard people exist" thing

'Like' my comment if you forgot about GOLDFINGER and want them in the 32nd spot, crab it if they should fuck off it.

Definitely listens to the Offspring:

This is fantastic. I can't believe I'm listening to these demos in this quality. The Uranus sound is unreal, I love it so much and I can actually hear it in The Girl Next Door too.

I'm wearing Fred Perry as we speak. I stand back and stand by.

gotta wonder how the lurkers feel about this absolute shitshow of a message board.

Neck Deep are painfully generic. Saves the Day all day every day.

Plus, the singer is clearly a midget and you don't want to be seen as someone who goes against those with disabilities.

they were never really big here in europe so it might be why some people like bagel or maddy have never heard of them

Neck Deep are fucking dreadful.

Fuck...this is upsetting

I just wanted everyone to know I hate this thread

I agree. And The Girl Next Door was in their setlist in late 1995. I remember it being in the October 95 Fort Worth Texas show.

The band My Bloody Valentine was much better and they're basically an audio version of suicide.

We wore the worst hand-me-down russian shit in romania. I won't let any westerner tell me I can't wear Boss (or whatever i damn well please) because their grandparents fucked up. Balkan boy, well dressed, not giving a fuck. Deal with it western world. I'll resist the urge to boost some poor schmucks car now. Thats about as much integration/submission as one can expect from me.

This is why I love you! You get the jokes and it's a blast. You and @_Bagel both are my soul mates and I'm glad I found you. You're not like the other people here in the trailer park. I'm adding @Machine Gun Smelly to that list as well ... we had our troubles but he's a good egg.

If socks kill Jawbreaker’s vote. I will do a Trump. I’m already perpetuating the myth

Swedes are essentially germans in colder weather. they don't take well to humor. makes them balanced though. chip on each shoulder

The album was a big "fuck you" to the scene and fans when it came out. It's part of what made it so great ... it was also panned like Weezer's Pinkerton.

yup i saw them play it more than once in 1995. same with the uranus tracks and "leia." heck they were playing "zulu" in 94!

Voted Trio for this one. Even though my girlfriend love the MGK album and have to listen to it in the car all the time I've never could get into his voice, it bugs me for some reason and I can't look past it Also, love trio ofc

especially one of those crazy argentina shows. These guys mean business when it comes to rock music and football.

I have a deep seething hatred for Sum 41 so Jawbreaker gets my vote by default.

I'm team Jawbreaker all the way. I know Sum 41 are important but they never wrote songs as beautiful as Accident Prone or Kiss The Bottle..

actually has a nice jawbreakery type vibe with a good hint of NFG to it. I like them. Def. poppunk

Why do you change your username every 4 hours? Are you 12?

I'm all for freedom of speech and all that new age mumbo jumbo but if you vote Ticket to my downfall then maybe YOU'LL CATCH FIRE

If this was Jawbreaker (the song by MGK) it would be a no brainer. But it's not, so Sum-41 it is.

Then your book don't mean oogatz to me!

finally a mod that understands what a forum is acutally for. restekp

The intention is to create as ridiculous/petty arguments as possible.

points for consistency. I was just joking tbh. But if someone in their 20s,30s,40s honestly feels intimidated and wants to project some elitism (when it comes to poppunk of all genres) I'll be as understanding as humanly possible. The genres way too broad to define anyhow. I took poppunk to be more....mall punk. Where blink would be on the Punk side of Poppunk and all these 2000s bands more on the pop side. I.e. NoFX (who i love dearly) aren't a poppunk band in my book. Just a very good (= melodic) punk band. I'll be happy to see Simple Plan and Bad Religion in the sam

I think I'll make voting anonymous so people can vote with their hearts and don't have to worry about being shamed.

I mostly just don't care for his sound. He has a very distinct production style and it tends to be overpolished and I'm not a fan. It sounds plastic to me. That's my only criticism though and it's a personal preference ... its not like I could do anything remotely on par with what he does.

Crabbed because it’s a joke that MGK is on this list

Nostalgia can be a real bitch. I haven't seen it since before you were born, @Nasa! Lol I enjoyed it then and I like to think I'd enjoy it now.

Who would willingly miss out on a trip to Flavortown?!

I keep going back and forth between wanting to throw in a list but then not being very passionate about pop punk or genre arguments Ah well, here are my favorites from when I was most into pop-punk. I don't know who counts or doesn't count as pop-punk but whatever: Blink Green Day Motion City Soundtrack MxPx Sum 41 New Found Glory Saves The Day Rancid The Ramones

oh yes, maybe not the best band ever, but they had huge riffs and huge choruses and their sound has aged so well

The last 12 pages of this thread were more than I bargained for. Interesting intense roller coaster ride.

Are you being sarcastic? If not? Barf.

Nothing wrong with being a FOB hater.