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11 minutes ago, twentytwenty said:

What is it that you find so epic about Valkyrie Missile and The Adventure?

I think they are well crafted with the synths and the building in crescendo atmosphere and there weren't other songs like for me at the time (mainly because I never liked U2, apart for a song or two, so I didn't know those songs were U2 with slightly higher pitched vocals).

I still wouldn't use for the word EPIC as in "something beyond the usual or ordinary especially in size or scope" for The Adventure and Valkyrie, but I get that this was what Tom wanted to achieve with them.

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6 minutes ago, Elisa said:

I think they are well crafted with the synths and the building in crescendo atmosphere and there weren't other songs like for me at the time (mainly because I never liked U2, apart for a song or two, so I didn't know those songs were U2 with slightly higher pitched vocals).

I still wouldn't use for the word EPIC as in "something beyond the usual or ordinary especially in size or scope" for The Adventure and Valkyrie, but I get that this was what Tom wanted to achieve with them.

Yeah I agree, I like the build ups and all, shit like El ducit is amazing to me if in the right mood. There are also times where they fell short while trying to achieve the grandiose build ups as in star of Betlehem though. 

The problem I've had with Valkyrie Missile from the first time I heard it back in 06 is that the crescendo really isn't one, the build up is great but doesn't really lead anywhere imho..

I have to say that complaining that AVA is just a rip off band of U2 and that it should lessen the bands output is like complaining that blink is a rip off of NOFX.. - in my opinion at least.

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11 minutes ago, twentytwenty said:

No?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I’m still searching for the part where I said everyone has to think like me. 
 

im saying tombots use of the word epic is overplayed and misused, it seems the majority of the people here understand that simple concept 

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1 minute ago, Texas Toast said:

I’m still searching for the part where I said everyone has to think like me. 
 

im saying tombots use of the word epic is overplayed and misused, it seems the majority of the people here understand that simple concept 

You're saying that you're annoyed with everyone that does not share your opinions on the matter and start to go on a rant. 

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2 minutes ago, twentytwenty said:

You're saying that you're annoyed with everyone that does not share your opinions on the matter and start to go on a rant. 

No man, you’re missing the point so I’m just gonna drop it now. Go ahead and call AVA epic/defend the ones who do. They’re only saying that because Tom DeLonge brainwashed them into thinking so. A wise man named Tommy Callahan III once said “if you want me to take a shit in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will.”

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16 minutes ago, Texas Toast said:

No man, you’re missing the point so I’m just gonna drop it now. Go ahead and call AVA epic/defend the ones who do. They’re only saying that because Tom DeLonge brainwashed them into thinking so. A wise man named Tommy Callahan III once said “if you want me to take a shit in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will.”

Yeah yeah, I'm bored of this now. Tie? 

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2 hours ago, twentytwenty said:

What is it that you find so epic about Valkyrie 

Valkyrie connotations :

wagner

stuka

Tom Delonge 

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4 hours ago, Texas Toast said:

How does your point stand though? You said it's not normal for Tom in general to sing about girls. He has always sang about girls, and never stopped singing about girls. The fact he had other subject matter does not negate the fact he has always sang about girls lol. 

My point stands because he hasn't *only* sang about girls in over 10 fucking years. Hence what I meant by "in general" I clearly know he sang mostly about girls pre blink split, fucking obviously, all I was saying is its weird for him now. 

Do you get hard from starting pointless arguments or something? Like seriously what's your deal? 

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2 hours ago, Kay said:

My point stands because he hasn't *only* sang about girls in over 10 fucking years. Hence what I meant by "in general" I clearly know he sang mostly about girls pre blink split, fucking obviously, all I was saying is its weird for him now. 

Do you get hard from starting pointless arguments or something? Like seriously what's your deal? 

Maybe it was pointless but you’re still wrong. It’s not weird for him now, he never fucking stopped singing about girls. 

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Okay, I'll be the guy who comes in and says that a lot of early AVA was epic.

It's a stupid argument for sure, because it's all subjective anyway, and on top of that everyone's personal definition of epic varies, but personally a lot of the stuff on the first two albums qualified as epic for me. Taking the music on it's own, and ignoring all the insane shit Tom was saying back in those days, the music was really great imo. I loved it then and I still do. I'm a sucker for all that delay and synths and effects that they used back then. Moreso than the more blatantly electronic sound they've been leaning towards more recently. The long intros and the war imagery worked for me really well.

With that said, Kiss & Tell is still one of their best songs even if it sounds nothing like what I just described lol

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I think it’s just because people equate “epic” to ultra positive god tier. But if you just view it as he was making building progressive music, then yea it was epic. He doesn’t do that and it abruptly stopped after love 2. It’s kind of weird that songwriting style just abruptly stopped like that but it’s kind of clear that was all critter (I’m not sure if Tom actually has the toolset to build those two minute intros with random sounds without him). Also Ilan told him to stop. So it is what it is whether you thought that style was good or not, but it’s pretty clear everything after love part 2 ceased being AVA (I find it hard to argue against this because there’s a clear before and after of what the band sounded like and everything around it) and just solo Tom Delonge since it’s now his only musical endeavor. Ava is somewhat of a brand that has minor value so at least stamp the name on it.

I also want to add that Toms production is super low budget these days. He had a state of the art studio with tons and tons of gear for ten years. Now he works out of a closet studio apartment with like five synths and five guitars. I question whether this impacts the production quality and limits what they can do with the music. I’m not an expert so I have no idea I’ve just been curious about this.

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9 hours ago, Cheerios4u98 said:

Okay, I'll be the guy who comes in and says that a lot of early AVA was epic.

It's a stupid argument for sure, because it's all subjective anyway, and on top of that everyone's personal definition of epic varies, but personally a lot of the stuff on the first two albums qualified as epic for me. Taking the music on it's own, and ignoring all the insane shit Tom was saying back in those days, the music was really great imo. I loved it then and I still do. I'm a sucker for all that delay and synths and effects that they used back then. Moreso than the more blatantly electronic sound they've been leaning towards more recently. The long intros and the war imagery worked for me really well.

With that said, Kiss & Tell is still one of their best songs even if it sounds nothing like what I just described lol

I can't hate on that. As long as people are realizing their definition of epic is out of whack lol

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7 minutes ago, JarJarBlinks said:

damn, The New Regime must not have been the next Rush like he expected.

It's still odd to me Tommy more or less wanted full control of blink, then hands over his band he does have complete control of to this guy... but fuck Mark and Travis, right? Dudes a weirdo. Then he can still only produce an album with 10 songs on it, 3 of which have already been released, 1 of them being released 2 years and 2 months ago. So epic bruh! 

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16 hours ago, Kay said:

My point stands because he hasn't *only* sang about girls in over 10 fucking years. Hence what I meant by "in general" I clearly know he sang mostly about girls pre blink split, fucking obviously, all I was saying is its weird for him now. 

Do you get hard from starting pointless arguments or something? Like seriously what's your deal? 

some people like feeling powerful by stating their opinions as fact. it's lowering the bar for discussion around here lately

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13 minutes ago, JarJarBlinks said:

damn, The New Regime must not have been the next Rush like he expected.

Ilan is all hype, nothing of substance besides technical musical talent.

If Tom wants someone to write him some good tunes, there's this donut loving guy named Feldy I'd recommend 🤘

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