Russel Coight 4482 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cheerios4u98 said: I guess that's probably true, and they know it will take Tom another 8-10 years to come out with another album after this one. Yeah that’s true. Honestly this album should’ve been finished and put well before COVID/lockdown all really kicked off but Tom be Tom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NotNow 2722 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Russel Coight said: I don’t blame or think bad ofTom or his label for not wanting to release the album without the touring promotion that comes with it but plenty of artists are still releasing albums/music during this time. MGK’s album we’ve all been talking about for the last week and bit just came out. LJG just released one. It’s not impossible to still release music even though you can’t tour it. They’re releasing music but they’re planned releases that were already planned for the year and had money spent on them already to be released. Stuff that’s already on their books for their fiscal year. Everything else they’re just kind of holding onto if they don’t have to release it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russel Coight 4482 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, NotNow said: They’re releasing music but they’re planned releases that were already planned for the year and had money spent on them already to be released. Stuff that’s already on their books for their fiscal year. Everything else they’re just kind of holding onto if they don’t have to release it. LJG album was a surprise album nobody knew it was getting released so it definitely didn’t have to be released this year. It’s really just Tom’s laziness that held this record back. He said in July last year that the record would be out by jan/feb this year but then he just never got around to recording it. The label definitely planned on having the album out this year and would’ve been in their fiscal plans. Then the combination of the album not getting finished and COVID happening they probably just said fuck it let’s wait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NotNow 2722 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Russel Coight said: LJG album was a surprise album nobody knew it was getting released so it definitely didn’t have to be released this year. It’s really just Tom’s laziness that held this record back. He said in July last year that the record would be out by jan/feb this year but then he just never got around to recording it. The label definitely planned on having the album out this year and would’ve been in their fiscal plans. Then the combination of the album not getting finished and COVID happening they probably just said fuck it let’s wait. Yea I’m saying they’re only albums that had very formal plans already prepared. I still think albums that were fiscally planned for the year are being pushed I don’t think the reverse is happening though. Weezers album was to be out in May and got delayed to next May. MGK was supposed to come out in June and just got delayed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russel Coight 4482 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, NotNow said: Yea I’m saying they’re only albums that had very formal plans already prepared. I still think albums that were fiscally planned for the year are being pushed I don’t think the reverse is happening though. Weezers album was to be out in May and got delayed to next May. MGK was supposed to come out in June and just got delayed. Maybe I’m just misunderstanding what your saying but it sounds like you’re contradicting yourself. If Weezer’s album was meant to be out in may it was obviously fiscally planned for this year yet it’s been delayed. And LJG album wasn’t planned for this year at all. It was recorded during lockdown and just released this week. So albums that were formally planned for this year are being delayed as well as released (Weezer and MGK) and albums that weren’t planned are still being released(LJG). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NotNow 2722 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Russel Coight said: Maybe I’m just misunderstanding what your saying but it sounds like you’re contradicting yourself. If Weezer’s album was meant to be out in may it was obviously fiscally planned for this year yet it’s been delayed. And LJG album wasn’t planned for this year at all. It was recorded during lockdown and just released this week. So albums that were formally planned for this year are being delayed as well as released (Weezer and MGK) and albums that weren’t planned are still being released(LJG). I guess I’m just saying music being released now is the exception. Labels are picking and choosing very carefully certain things to release. Superstars like Taylor swift that can do whatever they want, already planned releases, some smaller bands here and there. I’m just saying labels are very cautionary and they’re very selective on what they will allow to release at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elisa 3312 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 I guess it depends on the band. LJG's album was self released; MGK can afford to release an album in 2020 because it's going to sell well no matter what and Weezer got postponed because they were going to tour the album on the big tour with Green Day and FOB, so it'll come out in time for that tour. As for Tom, I don't know. AVA is a very niche band, the album isn't even finished, so the label is just waiting until he will be able to tour. If there hadn't been a pandemic going on though, I think they would have pressed him to release it because it's taking him years to write 10/12 songs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 11173 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Also LJG's record was mostly solo acoustic, one person recording in one room with one engineer isn't remotely comparable to a full band release with various staff involved, and if self released then she doesn't have to worry about touring or contracts or anything. LJG is more of a free agent than Tom currently, I don't think the releases are comparible. Tom dragged his heels with the record before COVID, that is 100% on him, but if his intention was to tour it and that's what the label wants too, than the COVID aspect makes sense. AVA aren't gonna pull loads of cash in like MGK, they'd need the touring money to make it viable to the label. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russel Coight 4482 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Again I don’t blame Tom or his label for not releasing the Ava album during COVID. I completely understand why the label haven’t released it during this time. All I’m saying is that there are musicians/bands releasing music during this time regardless of their ability to tour. I was only stating the fact that there are bands/musicians releasing music in the last few months. Really this whole discussion came down to me not agreeing with this quote: “They’re not releasing any albums if you can’t tour around it. Whole industry is in that state” Because the whole industry isn’t in this state. Some bands won’t release stuff but some will. It’s not an industry wide thing but an album to album/musician to musician thing which @NotNowagreed with in his last post. edit: it was never a “these bands are doing it so angels and airwaves should do it” but a “the music isn’t totally dead during covid” thing. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 11173 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Russel Coight said: Again I don’t blame Tom or his label for not releasing the Ava album during COVID. I completely understand why the label haven’t released it during this time. All I’m saying is that there are musicians/bands releasing music during this time regardless of their ability to tour. I was only stating the fact that there are bands/musicians releasing music in the last few months. Really this whole discussion came down to me not agreeing with this quote: “They’re not releasing any albums if you can’t tour around it. Whole industry is in that state” Because the whole industry isn’t in this state. Some bands won’t release stuff but some will. It’s not an industry wide thing but an album to album/musician to musician thing which @NotNowagreed with in his last post. edit: it was never a “these bands are doing it so angels and airwaves should do it” but a “the music isn’t totally dead during covid” thing. Nah i get that, I think it's dependent on the artist. Toms still useless though. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NotNow 2722 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Russel Coight said: Again I don’t blame Tom or his label for not releasing the Ava album during COVID. I completely understand why the label haven’t released it during this time. All I’m saying is that there are musicians/bands releasing music during this time regardless of their ability to tour. I was only stating the fact that there are bands/musicians releasing music in the last few months. Really this whole discussion came down to me not agreeing with this quote: “They’re not releasing any albums if you can’t tour around it. Whole industry is in that state” Because the whole industry isn’t in this state. Some bands won’t release stuff but some will. It’s not an industry wide thing but an album to album/musician to musician thing which @NotNowagreed with in his last post. edit: it was never a “these bands are doing it so angels and airwaves should do it” but a “the music isn’t totally dead during covid” thing. That’s not what I said at all but okay. It’s definitely an industry wide thing, labels are being very selective about what they choose to release. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russel Coight 4482 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 8 hours ago, NotNow said: That’s not what I said at all but okay. It’s definitely an industry wide thing, labels are being very selective about what they choose to release. We’re saying the same thing mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Champ182 4220 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 Is MGK super popular? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Satan 12421 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Champ182 said: Is MGK super popular? I guess he is now. I'd never heard of him before him getting together with Travis and the people on this board pushing him. He was apparently a rapper before this but I don't know how popular or good he was, that's not really my scene. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghent 18009 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 Who cares about some shitty AVA album, we've got that new MGK to listen to 🤘 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Satan 12421 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 I care. Looking forward to it. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 11173 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Speedo said: I guess he is now. I'd never heard of him before him getting together with Travis and the people on this board pushing him. He was apparently a rapper before this but I don't know how popular or good he was, that's not really my scene. All I knew was he was some knob head who tried to have a feud with Eminem. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Satan 12421 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 Did he lose? Is that why he decided to be pop punk? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Depf 136 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Speedo said: Did he lose? Is that why he decided to be pop punk? the tl;dr: mgk called em's 15 year old daughter hot. em fires shots at mgk. mgk tries to counter, em ethers him. mgk switches genre. narrative a : wow, mgk saves poppunk, what a multi talented dude narrative b : can you believe some half pedo was stupid enough to diss em? he's not allowed in hiphop anymore. let him be the poster child for a genre that attracts what he desires. lawlz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hail Satan 12421 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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