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Here's an actual conversation between Mark and Tom from when things were going bad:    

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1 hour ago, _Kyle_ said:

It's insane to me that they don't at least do a pressing of DED or anything. They could at least have sold 20-22k of those on vinyl.

Now that I think about it this thing never been released as a CD or vinyl was because of Tom wanting to handle all that on his platform and didn't allow them to co-operate with someone else. Mark and Travis obviously didn't agree as we know so Tom didn't agree on doing anything else either. So it was just a digital thing.

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34 minutes ago, _Kyle_ said:

Yeah, I think he felt it would be a big hit for modlife and that just didn't go anywhere. Maybe he has the rights to it? Maybe only he can press it.

doubt it, they probably all individually hold the rights to it as a part of "viking wizard eyes" or whatever. i agree though, they missed out on releasing that physically. i think mark said it was just laziness 

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Has anyone seen that letter between Paul McCartney and John Lennon? The similarity of their relationship with Mark and toms is pretty crazy. Apparently Paul thought that the Beatles was super influential of music and impactful, and John thought it was a bunch of pop crap. 

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Dear Linda and Paul,

I was reading your letter and wondering what middle aged cranky Beatle fan wrote it. I resisted looking at the last page to find out – I kept thinking who is it – Queenie? Stuart’s mother? – Clive Epstein’s wife? – Alan Williams? – What the hell – it’s Linda!

You really think the press are beneath me/you? Do you think that? Who do you think we/you are? The “self-indulgent doesn’t realize who he is hurting” bit–I hope you realize what shit you and the rest of my ‘kind and unselfish’ friends laid on Yoko and me, since we’ve been together. It might have sometimes been a bit more subtle or should I say “middle class” – but not often. We both “rose above it” quite a few times – & forgave you two – so it’s the least you can do for us – you noble people. Linda – if you don’t care what I say – shut up! – let Paul write – or whatever.

When asked about what I thought originally concerning MBE, etc. – I told them as best as I can remember – and I do remember squirming a little – don’t you, Paul? – or do you – as I suspect – still believe it all? I’ll forgive Paul for encouraging the Beatles – if he forgives me for the same – for being – “honest with me and caring too much”! Fucking hell, Linda, you’re not writing for Beatle book!!!

I’m not ashamed of the Beatles – (I did start it all) – but of some of the shit we took to make them so big – I thought we all felt that way in varying degrees – obviously not.

Do you really think most of today’s art came about because of the Beatles? – I don’t believe you’re that insane – Paul – do you believe that? When you stop believing it you might wake up! Didn’t we always say we were part of the movement – not all of it? – Of course, we changed the world – but try and follow it through – GET OFF YOUR GOLD DISC AND FLY!

Don’t give me that Aunty Gin shit about “in five years I’ll look back as a different person” – don’t you see that’s what’s happening NOW! – If I only knew THEN what I know NOW – you seemed to have missed that point….

Excuse me if I use “Beatle Space” to talk about whatever I want – obviously if they keep asking Beatle questions – I’ll answer them – and get as much John and Yoko Space as I can – they ask me about Paul and I answer – I know some of it gets personal – but whether you believe it or not I try and answer straight – and the bits they use are obviously the juicy bits – I don’t resent your husband – I’m sorry for him. I know the Beatles are “quite nice people” – I’m one of them – they’re also just as big bastards as anyone else – so get off your high horse! – by the way – we’ve had more intelligent interest in our new activities in one year than we had throughout the Beatle era.

Finally, about not telling anyone that I left the Beatles – PAUL and Klein both spent the day persuading me it was better not to say anything – asking me not to say anything because it would ‘hurt the Beatles’– and ‘let’s just let it petre out’ – remember? So get that into your petty little perversion of a mind, Mrs. McCartney – the c**ts asked me to keep quiet about it. Of course, the money angle is important – to all of us – especially after all the petty shit that came from your insane family/in laws – and GOD HELP YOU OUT, PAUL – see you in two years – I reckon you’ll be out then –

inspite of it all

love to you both,

from us two

P.S. about addressing your letter just to me – STILL….!!!

http://www.nme.com/news/music/john-lennon-paul-mccartney-letter-auction-1855454

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I present.... The Blink Version:



 

Dear Skye and Mark,

I was reading your letter and wondering what middle aged cranky Blink fan wrote it. I resisted looking at the last page to find out – I kept thinking who is it – Queenie? Scott’s mother? – Clive Epstein’s wife? – Alan Williams? – What the hell – it’s Skye!

You really think the press are beneath me/you? Do you think that? Who do you think we/you are? The “self-indulgent doesn’t realize who he is hurting” bit–I hope you realize what shit you and the rest of my ‘kind and unselfish’ friends laid on Jen and me, since we’ve been together. It might have sometimes been a bit more subtle or should I say “middle class” – but not often. We both “rose above it” quite a few times – & forgave you two – so it’s the least you can do for us – you noble people. Skye – if you don’t care what I say – shut up! – let Mark write – or whatever.

When asked about what I thought originally concerning MBE, etc. – I told them as best as I can remember – and I do remember squirming a little – don’t you, Mark? – or do you – as I suspect – still believe it all? I’ll forgive Mark for encouraging Blink – if he forgives me for the same – for being – “honest with me and caring too much”! Fucking hell, Skye, you’re not writing for Blink book!!!

I’m not ashamed of Blink – (I did start it all) – but of some of the shit we took to make them so big – I thought we all felt that way in varying degrees – obviously not.

Do you really think most of today’s art came about because of Blink? – I don’t believe you’re that insane – Mark – do you believe that? When you stop believing it you might wake up! Didn’t we always say we were part of the movement – not all of it? – Of course, we changed the world – but try and follow it through – GET OFF YOUR GOLD DISC AND FLY!

Don’t give me that Aunty Gin shit about “in five years I’ll look back as a different person” – don’t you see that’s what’s happening NOW! – If I only knew THEN what I know NOW – you seemed to have missed that point….

Excuse me if I use “Blink Space” to talk about whatever I want – obviously if they keep asking Blink questions – I’ll answer them – and get as much Tom and Jen Space as I can – they ask me about Mark and I answer – I know some of it gets personal – but whether you believe it or not I try and answer straight – and the bits they use are obviously the juicy bits – I don’t resent your husband – I’m sorry for him. I know Blink are “quite nice people” – I’m one of them – they’re also just as big bastards as anyone else – so get off your high horse! – by the way – we’ve had more intelligent interest in our new activities in one year than we had throughout the Blink era.

Finally, about not telling anyone that I left Blink – MARK and Klein both spent the day persuading me it was better not to say anything – asking me not to say anything because it would ‘hurt Blink’– and ‘let’s just let it petre out’ – remember? So get that into your petty little perversion of a mind, Mrs. Hoppus – the c**ts asked me to keep quiet about it. Of course, the money angle is important – to all of us – especially after all the petty shit that came from your insane family/in laws – and GOD HELP YOU OUT, MARK – see you in two years – I reckon you’ll be out then –

inspite of it all

love to you both,

from us two

P.S. about addressing your letter just to me – STILL….!!!

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3 hours ago, Champ182 said:

I present.... The Blink Version:



 

Dear Skye and Mark,

I was reading your letter and wondering what middle aged cranky Blink fan wrote it. I resisted looking at the last page to find out – I kept thinking who is it – Queenie? Scott’s mother? – Clive Epstein’s wife? – Alan Williams? – What the hell – it’s Skye!

You really think the press are beneath me/you? Do you think that? Who do you think we/you are? The “self-indulgent doesn’t realize who he is hurting” bit–I hope you realize what shit you and the rest of my ‘kind and unselfish’ friends laid on Jen and me, since we’ve been together. It might have sometimes been a bit more subtle or should I say “middle class” – but not often. We both “rose above it” quite a few times – & forgave you two – so it’s the least you can do for us – you noble people. Skye – if you don’t care what I say – shut up! – let Mark write – or whatever.

When asked about what I thought originally concerning MBE, etc. – I told them as best as I can remember – and I do remember squirming a little – don’t you, Mark? – or do you – as I suspect – still believe it all? I’ll forgive Mark for encouraging Blink – if he forgives me for the same – for being – “honest with me and caring too much”! Fucking hell, Skye, you’re not writing for Blink book!!!

I’m not ashamed of Blink – (I did start it all) – but of some of the shit we took to make them so big – I thought we all felt that way in varying degrees – obviously not.

Do you really think most of today’s art came about because of Blink? – I don’t believe you’re that insane – Mark – do you believe that? When you stop believing it you might wake up! Didn’t we always say we were part of the movement – not all of it? – Of course, we changed the world – but try and follow it through – GET OFF YOUR GOLD DISC AND FLY!

Don’t give me that Aunty Gin shit about “in five years I’ll look back as a different person” – don’t you see that’s what’s happening NOW! – If I only knew THEN what I know NOW – you seemed to have missed that point….

Excuse me if I use “Blink Space” to talk about whatever I want – obviously if they keep asking Blink questions – I’ll answer them – and get as much Tom and Jen Space as I can – they ask me about Mark and I answer – I know some of it gets personal – but whether you believe it or not I try and answer straight – and the bits they use are obviously the juicy bits – I don’t resent your husband – I’m sorry for him. I know Blink are “quite nice people” – I’m one of them – they’re also just as big bastards as anyone else – so get off your high horse! – by the way – we’ve had more intelligent interest in our new activities in one year than we had throughout the Blink era.

Finally, about not telling anyone that I left Blink – MARK and Klein both spent the day persuading me it was better not to say anything – asking me not to say anything because it would ‘hurt Blink’– and ‘let’s just let it petre out’ – remember? So get that into your petty little perversion of a mind, Mrs. Hoppus – the c**ts asked me to keep quiet about it. Of course, the money angle is important – to all of us – especially after all the petty shit that came from your insane family/in laws – and GOD HELP YOU OUT, MARK – see you in two years – I reckon you’ll be out then –

inspite of it all

love to you both,

from us two

P.S. about addressing your letter just to me – STILL….!!!

Not enough typos

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There are a lot of similarities in the relationships, but I am also not sold that either one would represent Tom.

For example, in 1969, it was Paul who was trying to control the entire band, it was Paul who wanted to managed by someone other than who the rest of them wanted to be managed by (this was a big part of why they split up). So in that sense, Paul kind of was like Tom.

But as pointed out, John represents Tom too, Paul kept trying to save The Beatles from a breakup and it was John who finally said "no more of this shit".

But yes, when this letter was written John and Paul HATED each other with a passion.

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7 hours ago, Olidamus said:

I think Mark really hates Tom, but I am not sure Tom really hates Mark. Breakups always hurt the person who didn't want it to end. Tom was able to be happy without Blink, Mark has been the one who's had to deal with the loss of his friendship and his band.

I think Tom hates Mark now too but plays that game of not giving a shit to just to bother Mark more.

Mark obviously hates Tom for being an idiot with Blink.

But they only hate because they once cared so much  :'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(

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